I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
"Everything that guy just said is bullsh*t."
Vincent LaGuardia Gambini
"Everything that guy just said is bullsh*t."
:roll: Hi Vinny...
There are several PriusOnline members whose posts need to be ignored. It appears they get their "kicks" from stimulating controversy. Possibly a frustrated kid (actually and/or mentally).
These members should not be termed "Prius people." Most PriusOnline members are helpful Prius owners who respond with courtesy.
There are several PriusOnline members whose posts need to be ignored. It appears they get their "kicks" from stimulating controversy. Possibly a frustrated kid (actually and/or mentally).
These members should not be termed "Prius people." Most PriusOnline members are helpful Prius owners who respond with courtesy.
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Actually... probably a closet case gay man who has PRIUS ENVY. I am surprised the host allows this putz to continue posting.
I suggest we petition the admin to initiate an ignore feature on the forum
http://www.priusonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=6613
http://www.priusonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=6613
excellent idea. wouldnt it be great if you were in a place where everyone agreed with you 100% of the time and you were never challenged on anything? It would be great cuz you would never have to think about anything.iggy1iggy said:
Do you honestly believe that any of my opinions will change when I get my Hybrid?
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This guy who spends half his life on a hybrid board has more mental problems than I thought. He is seriously in denial and has heavy hybrid envy. Why else would the idiot spend half his life here?? He craves attention and he only wishes he could afford the gas for a hybrid. Thing is... I didn't know they had internet access in psych wards.
mark,
my intention has always been (and is publicly stated repeatedly in this forum) to purchase a hybrid and add it to my collection of vehicles.
Apparently your blind hatred of anything challenging your views enables you to somehow overlook that key point.
The few meagre posts I have made here hardly consist of half a "lifetime" as you suggest.
Thanks for calling me an idiot. Hopefully it makes you feel better calling someone an idiot on the internet.
Bet you wouldnt talk like that to my face :roll:
my intention has always been (and is publicly stated repeatedly in this forum) to purchase a hybrid and add it to my collection of vehicles.
Apparently your blind hatred of anything challenging your views enables you to somehow overlook that key point.
The few meagre posts I have made here hardly consist of half a "lifetime" as you suggest.
Thanks for calling me an idiot. Hopefully it makes you feel better calling someone an idiot on the internet.
Bet you wouldnt talk like that to my face :roll:
That'd be a good thing in general, particularly if it also worked on the RSS feed (which is very unlikely). But it's only a small part of a solution. Trolls aren't in it to make everyone see what they say. They only need to bait enough people with spurious logic that begs for refutation, to disrupt the conversation. The art of trolling is at least decades old, and kill filters have never been enough to stop it. There's only two things that do. First, the admins of a forum asking themselves the question, "what is the purpose of this forum?" and finding the trolls have no place in the answer; and second, if everyone understands the troll mentality and keeps new arrivals educated about it, so the troll doesn't get the attention and disruption it wants, and leaves.iggy1iggy said:
But an ignore feature is a valuable thing in general, even if not for this particular problem. It's a nice means of counter censorship, for one. It's a lot easier to let A post something that other people might not like, if you can just tell them to ignore A. Everyone gets to see the forum they want without anyone having to give up their ability to post to the forum they want. Okay, that's a little rose-colored, but you get the idea.
It is not that you disagree it is the mean spirited way in which you disagree. When I first saw your posts I tried to respond politely and honestly but all I have read since has been biting and base. So to be quite honest I would just rather not read your posts because I find that they have no substance or merit, it appears you are only trying to pick fights. If you want to get a point across you shouldn't berate those you are trying to address you should state your opinion and back it up with facts, not rhetoric.fish_antlers said:
i'm not sure why anyone would dedicate a post to fish antlers....this is giving in to his egotism......he clearly gets off by getting prius members riled....i see no reason why he even has to even be a part of this forum as he really doesnt contriubute any valuable information. everything he does it to belittle this forum and its members. if i had nothing in common- i would just look for something more important to my needs....so why not just ignore everything he says.....& if he does change/or start another profile....he can easily be foiled by his comments. i dont know what his problem is.... i thought this was a place to find answers and learn about the prius... and what i have seen from him -is his only purpose is to "play". perhaps someone can find him a "monster suv" forum. i'm sure he would be more comfortable there. :roll:
Thanks!s3nfo said:
and to Cocoatreat...
WHY would "someone" dedicate an entire thread to me? Because that "someone" doesnt have the balls to post as themselves so they created a new account to start this topic.
But hey.. who pays attention to stuff like that, right? :roll:
I still love all the people shouting "troll" ... Do you seriously think I'm a troll, that I have no intention of buying a hybrid and I just made up this name to visit this site?
you all crack me up. You flatter yourselves if you think that's what's going on. "Prius people" arent THAT cool to demand that much input and attention.
Yes, unless you are everything these others say about you and you are NOT what you claim about yourself. The Prius has a way of changing people. Haven't you ead Rmarchena and his theories on how Prius ownership is practically a religion? I am a born again Prius owner- HAHAHAHAfish_antlers said:
fish_antlers' behavior and language may be a bit questionable sometimes, but I don't see why there has to be an attempt to shut him out of the forum. Remember, given enough time to sit at a typewriter he could write every Shakespeare play, and maybe even some sonnets too.
I don't understand either why fish_antlers is upset that somebody started a separate thread about him. Maybe it is because he then has to try to justify his posts? But I would think twice about disrespecting a person with the last name of Gambini. That is a name that demands respect.
To attempt to answer one of fish_antlers questions, yes, I do think your opinion would change when you get a hybrid.
It is very impressive what Toyota has done, combining the strengths of a gasoline engine with the strengths of an electric motor. I thought they were a joke, until I took a test drive. And the longer I own and drive one, the more impressive the Prius is.
Toyota gambled in investing research into their Synergy technology. Others laughed, until Toyota proved to them that there is a demand for this type of car. Just for that Toyota deserves respect. Toyota also designed the car for incredible efficiency, the cd is incredibly low, one more reason to be impressed.
Yes, there are some minor shortcomings with the car. The gas guage has been extensively discussed. There are some other issues and glitches, but nothing dramatic, and certainly nothing like GM's diesel fiasco a couple of decades ago. Some want heated seats, some want leather, some oppose leather, but it is up to everyone if that is enough to disqualify owning the car for them. Maybe fish_antlers is over 7 feet tall, in that case it probably would be a bad idea to buy a Prius for him. But I'm not over 7 feet tall, so I'm happy enough with how Toyota designed the interior.
And Prius owners are a great group to be associated with.
I don't understand either why fish_antlers is upset that somebody started a separate thread about him. Maybe it is because he then has to try to justify his posts? But I would think twice about disrespecting a person with the last name of Gambini. That is a name that demands respect.
To attempt to answer one of fish_antlers questions, yes, I do think your opinion would change when you get a hybrid.
It is very impressive what Toyota has done, combining the strengths of a gasoline engine with the strengths of an electric motor. I thought they were a joke, until I took a test drive. And the longer I own and drive one, the more impressive the Prius is.
Toyota gambled in investing research into their Synergy technology. Others laughed, until Toyota proved to them that there is a demand for this type of car. Just for that Toyota deserves respect. Toyota also designed the car for incredible efficiency, the cd is incredibly low, one more reason to be impressed.
Yes, there are some minor shortcomings with the car. The gas guage has been extensively discussed. There are some other issues and glitches, but nothing dramatic, and certainly nothing like GM's diesel fiasco a couple of decades ago. Some want heated seats, some want leather, some oppose leather, but it is up to everyone if that is enough to disqualify owning the car for them. Maybe fish_antlers is over 7 feet tall, in that case it probably would be a bad idea to buy a Prius for him. But I'm not over 7 feet tall, so I'm happy enough with how Toyota designed the interior.
And Prius owners are a great group to be associated with.
Yes. You act exactly like trolls have acted for decades. In every way, to the letter. You're a definitive troll. It's not even a question. The only question is for people who aren't familiar with the phenomenon.fish_antlers said:
It has nothing to do with how "cool" people are. There isn't any subject that isn't "cool" enough for trolling. All that is required is a group of people who have emotions that can be manipulated and who might take the bait. It's not about us, it's about you. We could be bird-fanciers or chemistry students or kinky sex aficionados or gourmet chefs or ballroom dancers, and trolling would work exactly the same.
And all that's required is for people to read up on the phenomenon and realize this isn't unique, it's not even common, it's downright tawdry. People were laughing off better trolls than you twenty years ago. The only reason trolls aren't extinct is exactly the same reason Nigerian bank scams aren't extinct -- there's always a new batch of suckers who haven't heard yet.
HunterGreen does provide much information about "trolls" with his link, but the link also says "likewise, accusers are often motivated by a desire to defend a particular internet project, and references to an Internet user as a troll might not be based on the actual goals of the person so named. As a result, identifying the goals of Internet trolls is most often speculative. Still, several basic goals have been attributed to internet trolls, according to the type of disruption they are believed to be provoking."
If fish_antlers wants to spend the time writing, I don't care. Sometimes I read it, sometimes I don't.
I will agree that he has, as is the definition of "troll," disrupted discussion and/or upset the forum participants. But just as some of fish_antlers' responses have been questionable in logic and definitely inflammatory, responding to that by calling others in the forum "suckers" if they don't know or don't care about whether or not fish_antlers is a troll is, in my opinion, not the polite thing to do. Calling people "suckers" and equating them with being dumb enough to fall for the Nigerian bank scams is questionable too.
If fish_antlers wants to spend the time writing, I don't care. Sometimes I read it, sometimes I don't.
I will agree that he has, as is the definition of "troll," disrupted discussion and/or upset the forum participants. But just as some of fish_antlers' responses have been questionable in logic and definitely inflammatory, responding to that by calling others in the forum "suckers" if they don't know or don't care about whether or not fish_antlers is a troll is, in my opinion, not the polite thing to do. Calling people "suckers" and equating them with being dumb enough to fall for the Nigerian bank scams is questionable too.
I did a bit more research and found this at http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:At ... orum&hl=en , about halfway down the page.
It attempts to separate the "recreational troll" from the "psycho troll." And this isn't an attempt to portray any particular poster as any particular troll, or even as a troll, it is just for your information.
"However, caution should be took in separating the recreational trolls from the psycho trolls. Psycho trolls generally stay in the same newsgroup or a related community of newsgroups for extremely long periods of time. As opposed to those trolling for recreation, psycho trolls are generally out for revenge against a select few, or maybe everyone, who he feels has done him wrong. Psycho trolls often are mentally or emotional disturbed and may not even realize that they're trolling. To psycho trolls, what happens on the internet is very real and personal. On rare occasions real trolls will also fall into the above category and will possess the same traits. These are the sore-losers and bottom feeders of the troll community."
It attempts to separate the "recreational troll" from the "psycho troll." And this isn't an attempt to portray any particular poster as any particular troll, or even as a troll, it is just for your information.
"However, caution should be took in separating the recreational trolls from the psycho trolls. Psycho trolls generally stay in the same newsgroup or a related community of newsgroups for extremely long periods of time. As opposed to those trolling for recreation, psycho trolls are generally out for revenge against a select few, or maybe everyone, who he feels has done him wrong. Psycho trolls often are mentally or emotional disturbed and may not even realize that they're trolling. To psycho trolls, what happens on the internet is very real and personal. On rare occasions real trolls will also fall into the above category and will possess the same traits. These are the sore-losers and bottom feeders of the troll community."
Well, as inflammatory as some of fish_antler's comments have been, and they are quite trollish, some of my fellow Prius owners make some pretty dumb comments as well. I love how people go out of their way to justify the craptastic interior on a 21-26K car. There are only a very few people who can actually admit that yeah, it's not a good interior.sub3marathonman said:
And you know what... trolls thrive on people like that. If a community is so blind that it can't see it's own weaknesses as well as strenghts, then they're just inviting trolling.
Great point. I don't see anything wrong with being a devoted supporter of a certain car, baseball team, or brand of musical instrument. However, I hate the blind loyalist. We've got a few Steeler's fans over here at work that are so damn loyal it's sick. Talking trash about how their team was gonna pound the Colts. And then when they themselves got pounded, they come into work and say "the next time we'll pound em." C'mon, admit that your team is not perfect.Jonnycat26 said:
The Prius is not perfect. There is no one car or one instrument that does everything. There are shortcomings in the Prius, as has been mentioned. But I drove one and loved it. I am relatively short and small frame so the seats don't bother me. Would I like a lumbar support, sure? Would I like materials other than plastic in the interior? Of course. But I know I'm paying for the hybrid technology not a luxury interior design.
I don't mind debate with people who disagree. I just hate people who get their "kicks" out of getting others riled up. It's amazing to me that someone who doesn't own a Prius and doesn't intend to get one could spend so much time debating the issue. A week or two, I could see. But week after week after week.
I don't need to justify to anyone why I'm buying a Prius. If asked, I'll give my reasons but I am not going to debate for the sake of debate. Some people get off on that. I don't. To me, it's juvenile and childish, and frankly, very immature.
Ken
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