Re: Civic ordering (was: Welcome)
LoL, Robert, you know me well.
Yes, I want to be the first on my block to have two hybrids. Actually it's my third hybrid, I owned a Reflex Red Insight for a few days in April 2000 before giving it back to the dealer -- who took it back and put it on his lot as a demo-only car.
Probably what lured me to the HEV Civic most was the fact that it's a hybrid. Secondly, I owned a '99 Civic and absolutely loved the car. It was solid and sleek and stuck to the road like glue -- cornered like it was on rails, to borrow the phrase from Pretty Woman. The Prius of course is taller and mine wanders on the road at highway speeds, even after being realigned by a Prius Tech at 5000 miles. And, the city mileage I get is cool, but the highway mileage for the longer trips I make most, well, sucks -- 38 to 42 in warm weather. If the Honda holds its highway mileage as reported, close to 50, and hugs the road the same way that my '99 EX did, I'll have a hybrid for each kind of driving. Sounds excessive, but I want to optimize my mpgs....
Ordering was a breeze. My Honda salesman is an absolute gem. I've never seen a car in their lot -- Civic, Accord, CRV -- that was marked up above sticker. I and the friends I've referred there all paid less than sticker, with no haggling, but maybe that's Robert. I'm paying just sticker for the Civic (which, I don't know exactly what that will be yet). I can't compare it to Internet ordering the Prius as I bought my Prius as a dropped car, right off the lot -- but those guys didn't charge me more than sticker, either, except for the addition of the Cruise Control, which they'd added themselves.
As for the knowledge of my Honda dealer: He's working hard to keep up with me. With all the info I can find on the internet, the reports from the auto shows, etc., he didnt' always have as much information as I did about the Civic.
That's not surprising... But he never tried to steer me to another car. That might be his own personality though. Bought a used car for my husband two summers ago, bought it from him, and we just walked in and told him what we wanted and he moved heaven and earth to locate and trade for what we were looking for -- told us what they had on the lot but never once tried to push us to buy that as the easy way out.
In fact, last summer (in my Pre-Prius days) I was on the lot looking at '01 Civic EX models (needed an automatic transmission instead of the stick in my '99, husband broke his foot and couldnt' drive a stick)...and Robert says to me, "You know the Hybrid will be here in March...if you can wait that long..." Always looking out for what he knew my real interests were.
A lot of dealers aren't AS knowledgeable as mine. I've been fortunate. I've talked to a woman in Florida whose dealer told her that the Civics won't be anywhere but California before June. My dealer vehemently denies this -- if the Florida dealer didn't request an allocation, it could be June before lot cars drop on his lot, but he says that ANY Honda dealer who requested an allocation will get at least some of them by April.
What am I unhappiest about in the new HEV Civic? THE COLORS. Rumor has it they won't offer Green b/c it's too "trite" -- a green car being green. That's exactly the little mind game I love about my Prius. So they're offering it in taffeta white (flat, no metallic), titanium (which is a champagne gold, and i don't like it at all), and a Opal silver blue, which I can't place on any of their current models and so holds a glimmer of hope for me...but on the early allocation, i got to chose transmission (I went with CVT automatic) but not color -- if color becomes that important to me, and I can't get what I want out of the first allocation, I will have to wait even longer (gave them my deposit in September, so I have been waiting a while already). I'm third on the list here in town, so hopefully numbers 1 and 2 won't pick "my" car.
'Nuff written. holy cow! Jeff, how about an "edit" button so when i come back later and read all my typos, i can fix them?