[grebe]

At the risk of asking a question that has been asked before (and asking one that will make me appear lazy in that I can't get through the manuals without falling asleep).... here goes:

I'd like to be able to use the navigation system while driving (i.e. be able to type in addresses and such while the car is moving). Of course, if the driver does that, it's super unsafe, and I would never consider that an option. But 90% of the time, I have a passenger in the car (or I am the passenger) and I wish so much that the driver didn't have to pull over in order for me to type in our next destination.

Is there away to turn off that "feature" of some options being greyed out? I have browsed the manuals and haven't hit on anything, but that's not saying much. I searched the archives too, but didn't see anything.

 

[hinalea]

It would be nice if Toyota let passenger enter NAV or phone

I concur with grebe. It's a pain that my passenger is locked out of entering a NAV destination or dialing a phone number whenever the vehicle is moving.

At the risk of sounding libertarian, I wish Toyota would let us sign a liability release, and then use our NAV and phone as we wish. I'm also tired of having to agree to the NAV warning every single time I start the car. And because the NAV doesn't support voice-activated dialing (which it clearly could, as my phone itself does) I must resort to even riskier dialing from the phone itself if moving.

If Toyota wants to lock this out, it should have broader voice-activated controls for things locked out.

Does anyone know of a way to disable that warning, or to get the display to allow passenger input?

 

[djstatik]

Any word on if this "safety feature" has a disable setting in the '07 model? It seems very short sited of Toyota to lock out both the driver AND the passenger. At a minimum, the same weight used to determine passenger AIRBAG ON could be used to determine feature availability while the car is in motion. What's the point of POI categories if you can't find ATMs or particular restaurants on a highway roadtrip?

Thanks in advance,
Scott

 

[efusco]

Any word on if this "safety feature" has a disable setting in the '07 model? It seems very short sited of Toyota to lock out both the driver AND the passenger. At a minimum, the same weight used to determine passenger AIRBAG ON could be used to determine feature availability while the car is in motion. What's the point of POI categories if you can't find ATMs or particular restaurants on a highway roadtrip?

Thanks in advance,
Scott

No "easter egg" override in the '06+
You can manually cut the speed sensor wire and add a switch which allows you access enroute.

 

[DanMan32]

There was talk of possibly getting code (loading.kwi) from another Toyota model with same resolution that allows the override easter egg, and Prius data over on PriusChat. Don't know if that was successful or not.

 

[Phish Phood]

Any word on if this "safety feature" has a disable setting in the '07 model? It seems very short sited of Toyota to lock out both the driver AND the passenger. At a minimum, the same weight used to determine passenger AIRBAG ON could be used to determine feature availability while the car is in motion. What's the point of POI categories if you can't find ATMs or particular restaurants on a highway roadtrip?

Thanks in advance,
Scott

If that were the case, I'd just leave a sack of rice there the whole time

 

[djstatik]

Thanks for the replies. Being an owner for less than a week now I'm not quite ready to start hacking it....yet. I guess I'll keep on relying on Interstate road signs, or pull over for a minute if I find a safe place.

 

[Phish Phood]

If you're going to the same few places (home, work, etc.) you can save them as memory points and make them one of the 5-6 (I can't remember how many) main points you can access at the bottom of the "Destination" screen. No matter where I have gone for lunch or have wandered off to, I can select one of these points at anytime while "inputting" would normally be unavailable.

 

[ChasSuitt]

:roll: Seems to me that enabling 'typing in' information to the NAV system would be even worse than dialing your cellphone and talking while driving. I believe Toyota is just right to disable entering info into the NAV while the Prius is in motion. To enter info., you must divert your attention away from the road and go through several layers of menus... just doesn't make sense. So what's the big deal about pulling over for a minute and entering info.? If you're really in that big a rush, you didn't start your drive soon enough. If you will take a look at this link (the Lexus NAV online DVD), you will note that some NAV commands can be accomplished by voice. This is the same NAV system as the Prius, only the dash buttons are different on the Prius.

http://www.lexus.com/lexus-share/demos/ ... s_nav.html

Remember how people objected to seat belts when they became standard operating practice?

 

[Phish Phood]

:roll: Seems to me that enabling 'typing in' information to the NAV system would be even worse than dialing your cellphone and talking while driving. I believe Toyota is just right to disable entering info into the NAV while the Prius is in motion. To enter info., you must divert your attention away from the road and go through several layers of menus... just doesn't make sense. So what's the big deal about pulling over for a minute and entering info.? If you're really in that big a rush, you didn't start your drive soon enough. If you will take a look at this link (the Lexus NAV online DVD), you will note that some NAV commands can be accomplished by voice. This is the same NAV system as the Prius, only the dash buttons are different on the Prius.

http://www.lexus.com/lexus-share/demos/ ... s_nav.html

Remember how people objected to seat belts when they became standard operating practice?

Seatbelts!! Those are completely unnecessary and stupid!!! :lol: <I'm joking of course>

 

[djstatik]

Just to be clear, Like Grebe, I usually have someone in the car with me to enter the navigation directives. The big deal about pulling over is that it can be dangerous. You have to pick a wide enough shoulder...even then people start panicking and overcompensate to avoid you. The last time I stopped on the shoulder, simply to change drivers, a police officer pulled behind us and turned on his lights. He was just checking to make sure everything was alright, which I appreciated, but it was embarrasing none-the-less.

If the screen was turned 20 degrees or more to the driver I would definitely agree to grey out certain features while in motion. The fact is that it's dead center, and I think the design was intentional so that both driver and front seat passenger could use the controls. I just discovered the lockpick 3, and I'll probably be installing that. Don't worry...I promise to keep my eyes on the road!

 

[Per]

Our Honda Odyssey allows use of the nav system while driving, and it is really handy. As mentioned , the passenger can certainly use it without any safety implications. Toyota should give us the choice. I have seen a gadget that plugs into the rear of the nav unit on the Toyotas that allow operation while driving. It was advertised in regular car magazines. If I end up with a Toyota, my nav unit will have one!

 

[KTPhil]

They should have used the seat sensor (used for air bags or seat belt warning lights) and allow operation if there is a passenger in the seat.

 

[Phish Phood]

They should have used the seat sensor (used for air bags or seat belt warning lights) and allow operation if there is a passenger in the seat.

That wouldn't prevent the driver from using it though.. you assume the passenger is doing it, but what if its just a sack of rice sitting there that you're using to override the system? Safety first.. besides, if you pull over, it won't take but a minute to enter anything.

 

[ChasSuitt]

:?: I have another related question for this thread...

Do any onboard NAVigation systems allow manual entries while the car is in motion? -- you know, like those 'non-Prius' and 'non-Toyota' cars.

 

[mikepaul]

Do any onboard NAVigation systems allow manual entries while the car is in motion? -- you know, like those 'non-Prius' and 'non-Toyota' cars.

I was in the passenger seat of my mom's 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid and could play all I wanted with the NAV. Once you agree to not be distracted, it seems to be fully available. Not sure if my being in the passenger seat enabled full access, though...

 

[Rambler]

:roll: So what's the big deal about pulling over for a minute and entering info.? If you're really in that big a rush, you didn't start your drive soon enough.

Not EVERYWHERE is it possible, or safe to pull over and stop. Probably those very situations are when you might need NAV guideance the most.

Up here where I live, miles and miles of 1 1/2 lane blacktop roads with no shoulder - it can be 20 miles or more before a good pull-off can be located. And I can just imagine being stuck in that mess down in the Bay area (where the overpass collapsed), stuck in rush hour traffic trying to safely pull over and stop.

I love my Coastal unlock kit, but I would never abuse it and operate my vehicle unsafely.

 

[DanMan32]

Not to contradict what you are saying as I agree with most of it, but if you are stuck in rushour traffic, then you are probably driving slow enough or even stopped on occasion where you can operate the NAV without needing to pull over.

 

[tscales]

:?: I have another related question for this thread...

Do any onboard NAVigation systems allow manual entries while the car is in motion? -- you know, like those 'non-Prius' and 'non-Toyota' cars.

Sure. Both my BMWs do. They don't disable anything. My Corvette disables though.

 

[Bre]

We have a 2007 Prius and a 2005 Honda Odyssey. The Honda navigation system works while you are driving. It's great because your passenger can search for places along a trip while you are driving. On my last trip with the Prius we were lost in a city, and the area was too dark and unsafe to pull over and park, and we couldn't use the navigation system until we drove to another area of the city where we could park.