Thought I'd start a new thread to discuss the potential of Toshiba's new 1 minute recharge Lithium-Ion battery. Here's their press release on the matter:
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2005_03/pr2901.htm
The major details are:
1) 80% recharge can be completed in only 1 minute, or 100% charge in ~6 minutes.
2) After 1,000 cycles there is only a 1% reduction in capacity.
3) The battery tolerates a wide range of temperatures (-40oC to +45oC).
4) The target market is hybrid batteries for use in cars and trains.
5) They aim to commercialise the battery by 2006.
So on the face of it, an EV or plug-in hybrid with these installed would be able to recharge faster than it would take to fill up with gasoline! 8)
But the big question they've not yet answered is what is the energy density of the new battery? They claim it's good (see their chart below), but no mention of figures.
Elsewhere they've mentioned a Wh/litre figure of about 200, which is about half that of the best 18650 lithium-ions on the shelf today. Assuming roughly equal mass density, then these batteries should have about 100 Wh/kg. Not earth shattering, but still more than enough to provide some decent EV range.
So, assuming a plug-in hybrid Prius (like this one) is capable of 4 miles per kWh, then for each 10 miles of EV range you'd require 25 kilos of the new Toshiba batteries. 100 kilos would get you 40 miles range and would fit nicely in the space beneath the false trunk floor in the Prius, so no space would be lost. With cycle life in the thousands, the battery would last way longer than the rest of the car. Cost of such a pack should be in the region of $4,000.
But then I got to thinking about the recharging issue - suppose you had a 200 mile range, 5 minute recharge EV fitted with these. While charging, the car would draw 600 kilowatts! At 250 volts, that's a whopping 2,400 amps!
So it looks like the limiting factor here will not be the car, but the recharging apparatus. Perhaps we'll have to fit huge capacitors underneath the filling stations to cope? :roll:
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2005_03/pr2901.htm
The major details are:
1) 80% recharge can be completed in only 1 minute, or 100% charge in ~6 minutes.
2) After 1,000 cycles there is only a 1% reduction in capacity.
3) The battery tolerates a wide range of temperatures (-40oC to +45oC).
4) The target market is hybrid batteries for use in cars and trains.
5) They aim to commercialise the battery by 2006.
So on the face of it, an EV or plug-in hybrid with these installed would be able to recharge faster than it would take to fill up with gasoline! 8)
But the big question they've not yet answered is what is the energy density of the new battery? They claim it's good (see their chart below), but no mention of figures.

Elsewhere they've mentioned a Wh/litre figure of about 200, which is about half that of the best 18650 lithium-ions on the shelf today. Assuming roughly equal mass density, then these batteries should have about 100 Wh/kg. Not earth shattering, but still more than enough to provide some decent EV range.
So, assuming a plug-in hybrid Prius (like this one) is capable of 4 miles per kWh, then for each 10 miles of EV range you'd require 25 kilos of the new Toshiba batteries. 100 kilos would get you 40 miles range and would fit nicely in the space beneath the false trunk floor in the Prius, so no space would be lost. With cycle life in the thousands, the battery would last way longer than the rest of the car. Cost of such a pack should be in the region of $4,000.
But then I got to thinking about the recharging issue - suppose you had a 200 mile range, 5 minute recharge EV fitted with these. While charging, the car would draw 600 kilowatts! At 250 volts, that's a whopping 2,400 amps!
So it looks like the limiting factor here will not be the car, but the recharging apparatus. Perhaps we'll have to fit huge capacitors underneath the filling stations to cope? :roll: