On the advice of a long term and highly respected member of PriusOnline I have decided to remove this topic. There was very little good content in it, mostly is was just a bunch of name calling. Both xcel and djasonw have been banned from Priusonline. If they want to fight with each other they can do it somewhere else. I may allow them to come back in a few months if I can get agreement from both of them to behave a little better.