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Dear Group:

I declare the Prius group buy of Nokian NHRi tires to have begun! This project was initiated by Betty Hamilton, and I have done some additional emailing with Ryan at Tirefactory. His most recent email to me (copied below) will answer most questions, but let me make some other comments first.

The Nokian NRHi tire is low rolling resistance, as was the “famous” Potenza OEM tire on US 2001-2003 Prius. It is manufactured in a relatively “environmentally friendly” way, which you may read about at the Nokian web site. It is a unidirectional tread design (as is the Michelin Hydroedge), which means that tires are mounted differently on the rims for the left and right side of the vehicle. The tire rotation pattern then becomes front to back, with no crossing pattern.

As Ryan mentions below, the OEM size of this tire, 175/65R14, has an 82 load index vs. 84 of the original. He regards this as adequate for Prius. But many will know that this has been much discussed in the past. At present I am using 81 load index tires on a 2001 Prius, and they have performed very well. But my next set will 84 or higher.

If I understand the other specifications correctly, all Nokian NRHi tires are 51 psi max, 320 tread life, “A” traction and “A” temperature.

I intend to order the 185/65R14 90H XL tires from Ryan. He wondered whether the extra half-inch diameter can be accommodated, and I am quite sure that it can. He has not yet quoted a price for this size, but I guess it will be about $95 each.

Today I emailed him whether we all need to order exactly the same thing, and don’t have an answer to that yet. But assuming that we can mix n match, you are all free to choose your own.

Tire Factory also sells Nokian WR, which is supposed to be an excellent winter tire. Perhaps someone will want those? If anyone with the new model Prius is in the market for tires, they may want to consider the Nokian NRHi 185/65R15 tire.

The process seems pretty straightforward. Everybody calls Ryan and tells him what they want. Presumably, the total number of customers will be 10 or more, and we will all get the discounted price and free shipping to 48 states, and no sales tax except for Michiganders. His end-date is 31 October, so get crackin’.

It should be obvious that there are some additional costs. Tire installation and spin-balancing typically runs $10 per tire. Most or all states levy a small tire disposal fee.

I am pretty excited about this, although I may store the tires for a while before installing them. Or maybe I won’t be able to wait! I am posting this message on the Yahoo toyota-prius and 2G groups, PriusChat, PriusOnline, and Green Hybrid. Have I missed any?

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Hey Doug,

Thanks for the e-mail and the enthusiasm in starting a group buy! The 175/65R14 Nokian NRHi does in fact have a 82H Rating which is lower than the stock 84 load. However, the NRHi in that size would be a fine fitment as it still holds up to 1,047 lbs per tire at max inflation.

The 185/65R14 would be .5" taller than the stock size and may not clear your fenders properly. An alternate size in the 14" would be the 185/60R14, however that only has the 82H rating as well.

We would be willing to offer $10 off per tire saving $40 per set with FREE SHIPPING in the Continental US and NO sales tax outside MI. People can call us at 800-576-1009 to place the order and we accept all major credit cards. To give you a reference the price on the 175/65R14 with the discount would be $89.99 each and the 185/55R15 would be $94.99 each. We are willing to offer this pricing immediately through 10/31.

Thanks! Ryan
Tire Factory, Inc

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Ryan’s email address is tirefactory AT tirefactory DOT com

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Even w/o reponses to this, I post the following updates:

You can get the discount and free shipping with any Nokian tire in any size. If yu are looking for winter tires, or have the new model Prius with 15 inch wheels, you can play too.

The 10-buyers limitation has been lifted. You will get the discount regardless of how many people call 800-576-1009.

Ryan told me he has steel wheels for winter tires, but I don't know if his prices for these lead the market.

I posted Ryan's email wrong before. The correct is

tirefactory AT tirefactory DOT net

Did I mention that I will get squat for doing this? It's just that these seem to be pretty good tires, and I'd hate to see any of my Prius friends driving on worn-out tires. It's too bad, I could use a cut.

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Tires are a real personal thing but thanks for the effort and research.
Yer welcome. I have high hopes that the Nokian NRHi 185/65R14 90H XL will be a pretty good tire for the 2001-2003, so I threw $380 towards Michigan this AM. Let's see what I get, and how well they roll and last.

Anybody else looking for Prius tires? Winter or summer? We can talk about this until Halloween.

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I have these tires...

They've been on the car for the last 5,000 miles. They are excellent. Handling is much improved and zero problems in the rain. Milage consistently has been in the mid 50's each tank.

In another month, I'll be putting on the Nokian RSi's-snows-they are also a low rolling resistance tire.
 

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I called Ryan at tirefactory.net for pricing under the Prius group buy. I was only looking into winter tires for both of my Prius, but I also took down info for comparison to local tire dealers (which throw in free rotations for life, discounted alignments, winter tire changeouts, if you purchase from them). tirefactory.net was cheaper than local upfront (it'll be a wash after about 2 years paying for dealer rotations), and that's what I opted for in the end...

Ryan is a pleasant and knowledgeable tire guy. He says that he's been getting calls for the last couple of days for inquiries from Prius owners...

All purchases come with free shipping (Fedex Ground). No sales tax if you live outside of Michegan. Prices as quoted include the group buy discount price (good until the end of Oct. 2005).

14" = 2001-2003 Prius
15" = 2004-2005 Prius

Tire sizes in the 185/65, T speed rating:

14" WR tire only = 82.99/each (331.96 for 4)
14" WR tire/wheel package (includes mount/balance) = 583.84
15" WR tire only = 84.99/each (339.96 for 4)
15" WR tire/wheel package (includes mount/balance) = 631.84

14" RSi tire only = 89.99/each (359.96 for 4)
14" RSi tire/wheel package (includes mount/balance) = 611.84
15" RSi tire only = 94.99/each (379.96 for 4)
15" RSi tire/wheel package (includes mount/balance) = 678.84

14" 4x100 steel wheel only = 49.99/each (199.96 for 4)
15" 5x100 steel wheel only = 59.99/each (239.96 for 4)
from US Wheel Co., has a unilug design, for offsets greater than 38

tire/wheel packages include tire mounting, computerized balancing, valve stems.

Hakkapeliitta RSi (friction winter, replacement for the Hakkapeliitta Q):
http://www.nokiantyres.com/passengercar ... LIITTA+RSi
http://www.nokianrsi.com/
http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tire ... ?id=53&w=1

Nokian WR (friction winter, all-weather (4 season)):
http://www.nokiantyres.compassengercars ... =NOKIAN+WR
http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=6

I decided to go with the Nokian WR tire/wheel package from tirefactory.net (group buy discount) for both of my 2001 and 2004 Prius. I'll swap to the winter wheels for this winter, back to the OEMs on the alloy wheels for next spring/summer/fall. Next winter 2006 back to the WRs on winter wheels. Spring 2007 I'll evaluate the OEM tires for wear. If good, repeat. If time to discard, I can either keep the WRs full time, or I can buy some 3-season replacement tires at that time.

Nokian WR
400 treadwear
A traction
A temperature
Severe Service Emblem
 

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Nokian tire group buy

I was emailing Ryan at tirefactory to see how the group tire buy went, and he mentioned that he was still getting inquiries, and still offering the same discount and free shipping. So I asked "is this off the record or are you officially extending the deal?" He replied that he would give Prius owners the same deal until 11/30/05.

Nokian has both 3-season and winter-only tires for both Prius models. IMHO they are among the best of the "higher-priced" group, along with Michelin. Tirefactory has (or did have) 14- and 15-inch steel wheels for those who want a standalone set for winter.

If you are looking for Prius tires, consider this among your options.

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i couldn't care less about my tires. what ever is on there works fine for me...

sometimes i rotate them, patch them, but seldom do i read about or shop for them...

so far all the cars I've had have stayed on the road..
 
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