mrv said:
There's always the chance that the person was born on Feb. 29, so they only have a birthday every 4th year...
You crack me up with your ability to see such an obvious possibility that somehow eluded and escaped the rest of us.
For those among us who like to use "homey" sources for historical reference and wisdom, consider this, "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
Hey folks, don't take every comment or post simply at face value. Recall "Slick Willy" and the meaning of "is" and his redefinition of sex based on his personal situatioin vs the "plumbing" involved. Tactical manuevers and "slight" deviatioins from the simple truth that would never be permitted in a formal debate are routinely employed here.
Note to Moo: I think your familarity with the requirements for concealed carry in the state of Oklahoma is probably somewhat lacking and for you to assert that the folks with concealed carry permit are a proper subset and indistinguishable from the population of all Oklahoma gun possessors or even from the population at large. I assure you that is not the case. Your "logic" is flawed and you are stating "facts" not in evidence.
Similarly, class 3 firearms (controlled by the BATF) which includes fully automatic weapons and supressors (AKA silencers) requires special application and approval along with an expensive "tax stamp." Automatic weapons and or silencers... now there are topics that really stir up the anti-gun element. Whip out your statistics and tell us how many legally lisc fully auto weapons and or silencers were used by their lisc owners in the commission of a crime (or suicide or harm to a minor child.)
Do you think it reasonable to assume that the population of class 3 liscense holders is the same as all gun owners or the population at large? Again, I assure you that this is not the case. One of the first signature blocks on the application is for the county sheriff where essentially he has to state that he wans you to have the firearm and sign and date the form. There are extensive Federal background checks, beyond those required for a concealed carry permit.
The concealed carry permit requires passing an approved course of training and stringent background check. Any history whatsoever of family vilolence/spousal abuse and several other things are automatic disqualification.
Please get your facts straight before you assert any personal extensions or interpretations of the statistics you quote.
Oh, by the way... Yes I do have lisc/permit for class 3 firearm and it is in sight on a shelf above this computer. I feel no urge to us in on myself, even after rereading some of the misleading content of some posts.

Pat
