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I am trying to learn How much fuel is wasted per minute when a car / truck is stopped and ICE is idleing? I saw my neighbor park his Dodge Ram with motor still idleing, on the street last night talking with a person for over 35 minutes. :shock:
I was watering the flowers in front of my house. I had a notion to go ask him if he loves the Saudis,etc. but kept my cool. 8) If I had some idea what he wasted in fuel that he could have driven x# miles in the 35 min's parked with motor running, that may be a better choice of words I would tell him.
Is there a chart on the type ICE 4 cyl / 6 cyl/ 8 cyl/ H2 ? :?: That gives
me the answer?
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Tony LIscio 04 Tideland Pearl Prius, best car I've owned in 48 years. :D
 

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Tony Liscio said:
I am trying to learn How much fuel is wasted per minute when a car / truck is stopped and ICE is idleing? I saw my neighbor park his Dodge Ram with motor still idleing, on the street last night talking with a person for over 35 minutes. :shock: ...
It's illegal to do that in NJ. Three minutes, max. Can rat him out to DEP and he'll get big old hairy fine. HAH!!
 

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Tony, enjoy your car and the sense of saisfaction that it gives you but really, leave your neighbors to their own opinions. You've probably already been classed as the strange guy in the neighborhood. Taking the argument between a Prius and a Dodge Ram is a little like the Morman ringing the Catholics doorbell to talk differences of religion. When his gas bill bothers himself, if it ever does then mention why you bought your car.
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Well, we can use some numbers for all of Calgary's vehicles to get an average individule vehicle value. These numbers come from an info sheet put out by the City of Calgary.

600,000 Calgary vehicles idling 1 minute per day for 1 year use 4,745,500 liters of gasoline.

4,745,500 liters per year / 600,000 vehicles = 7.9 liters per year per vehicle.

7.9 liters per year per vehicle / 365 minutes per year = 0.022 liters per minute per vehicle.

That's about 0.0058 gallons per minute, or .17 gallons in 30 minutes.

So it would take about 3 hours to burn a gallon of gas at idle. Since the Dodge Ram has a bigger than average engine, it will burn that gallon of gas faster.

Well, that's what I found on the first page of a google search anyway. Spend a bit more time and maybe you can get more documentation to (in)validate these numbers or break it down by engine size.
 

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I guess I've got a split personality; I have a Dodge Ram and a Prius! My Dodge get's 12 mpg and my Prius gets 47 or so, but each serves it's purpose for our family. When Toyota comes out with the hybrid system in the Tacoma, I'll be first in line. I hear that will be 2 years.

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Sanny said:
Tony Liscio said:
I am trying to learn How much fuel is wasted per minute when a car / truck is stopped and ICE is idleing? I saw my neighbor park his Dodge Ram with motor still idleing, on the street last night talking with a person for over 35 minutes. :shock: ...
It's illegal to do that in NJ. Three minutes, max. Can rat him out to DEP and he'll get big old hairy fine. HAH!!
It's also illegal in MA:
Mass. General Law, ch. 90, section 16A:
http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/90-16A.htm
http://www.state.ma.us/dep/bwp/daqc/fil ... /7b.htm#11

I see that the city of Toronto (Canada) and that London (UK) have also
implemented city by-laws against idling of engines, as they're mentioned
as case studies at the Idle-Free Zone toolkit site from the OEE (Canada):
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/autosmart/idling/case.cfm

Ottawa and Montreal in Canada also have an anti-idling law:
http://temagami.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/01022002/n1.shtml

I'm certain that there are other towns/cities/counties/states that have
similar anti-idling laws...


More information about idling vehicles (why it's better to drive it than
idle it, how long of a warmup your vehicle really needs, etc.) can be
found here:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/idling/home.cfm
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globemeg ... 11702.html
http://prairie.sierraclub.ca/idling/
http://cartalk.cars.com/About/Eco/tips.html#7

I've also seen press reports of busses and delivery vehicles in NYC and Boston getting fined by the EPA for excessive idling.
 

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While I appreciate the idea of letting everyone do (as in idle...) as they please, there are limits to that in a situation of limited resources, and where idling contributes to dependency on oil, pollution, etc...
(not to mention noise pollution).
I personally do think it is quite appropriate to alert people to these potential issues. It has always bothered me when people leave their engine idling unnecessarily. Here in TX, you see a lot of people letting their car idle while they go shopping, pick up their coffee, etc..., just to let the AC run and have the car nice and cool when they get back. In my book, that is a huge amount of inappropriate, inconsiderate waste. I would also assume that under these conditions, idle consumption is worse than without A/C. Other things that I personally consider inappropriate and unecessary wastefulness are remote engine starters, just so your engine and car are nice and warm for your sensitive hiney. It's a silly thing fro several reasons, one being that many studies have shown that no-load warming up of engines does more damage in teh long run to engines, than warming up under a light load while driving conservatively for teh first few minutes. In addition, the cat will warm up much slower while idling, and idling warmup thus pollutes far more than gentle driving warmup. Plus, idling slow warmup substantially reduces cat life.
It's kind of sad to see folks go to great lengths to reduce oil consumption and dependency by getting cars that have auto engine off, just to have other blow that right out the door by idling their car.
Bottom line, is I do believe we should all try to make an effort to educate these folks, and basicaloly give them the benefit of the doubt that they simply don't know (or understand) what it is they are doing.
Just my 2c worth.
 

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I feel for your attitude. I hate it when I'm waiting for someone and a car pulls uo beside me and parks with the engine running and worse as far as I am concerned the radio or CD player screaming so that the guy across the parking lot can "enjoy it" However I have learned patience in this day and age and just raise all my windows and let the matter go. There are too many nuts out there today and you read about their victims everyday. Be very carefull who you are attempting to educate. And especially in Texas! where the gun laws are very lax.
 
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