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Well, I selected > 1 Month as I waited about 27 days for one.
However, indicating
">" 1 Month means greater than... I looked at your progression on the poll and assumed you meant less than. You may want to go in and edit that though, if you can edit an active poll.
I've also wondered... whenever I create a poll even if I select mulitple choices it only shows the first 2... do you have to do something ELSE to create more than 2 choices?
However, indicating
">" 1 Month means greater than... I looked at your progression on the poll and assumed you meant less than. You may want to go in and edit that though, if you can edit an active poll.
I've also wondered... whenever I create a poll even if I select mulitple choices it only shows the first 2... do you have to do something ELSE to create more than 2 choices?
Your poll is not very good. You miss out on those on a list that have waited longer than 5 months, LIKE ME!jlakis said:
Just today I got offered a 2004 in 2 weeks, after waiting since Feb. Well, with 2005s right around the corner, no thanks.
A month ago I was still 25 back with 10 a month coming to the dealer, sounds to me like many are passing on 2004s.
Wait? None, or 2 days, depending on your point of view.
As has been posted in other threads (and in my sig,) it took two days to take delivery after I started seriously looking.
But, I wasn't seriously expecting one so quickly, so I hadn't even been serious about *BUYING* one until the dealer called to tell me it was in. A good analogy would be if you are just starting to look at a new TV. You know what basic features you want, but haven't decided on a brand or model yet. You figure you'll take a month or so to actually decide, then take a week or two to comparison shop. Then you find out that one matching your needs is available right now, and at a good price, so you buy it, even though you weren't really ready. So even though it took two days from the start of my 'search', I wasn't even expecting to place an order for another couple weeks. (For example, I didn't have financing lined up yet, so took dealer financing instead I had originally been planning on starting a search for financing later in that same day.)
So you could say I got the car a couple weeks before I would have placed the order.
(Where's the "-2 weeks" option?)
As has been posted in other threads (and in my sig,) it took two days to take delivery after I started seriously looking.
But, I wasn't seriously expecting one so quickly, so I hadn't even been serious about *BUYING* one until the dealer called to tell me it was in. A good analogy would be if you are just starting to look at a new TV. You know what basic features you want, but haven't decided on a brand or model yet. You figure you'll take a month or so to actually decide, then take a week or two to comparison shop. Then you find out that one matching your needs is available right now, and at a good price, so you buy it, even though you weren't really ready. So even though it took two days from the start of my 'search', I wasn't even expecting to place an order for another couple weeks. (For example, I didn't have financing lined up yet, so took dealer financing instead I had originally been planning on starting a search for financing later in that same day.)
So you could say I got the car a couple weeks before I would have placed the order.
(Where's the "-2 weeks" option?)Re: Wait? None, or 2 days, depending on your point of view.
Yes, I did. That was in the example (as not too many other purchases have such a long waiting list, the usual 'immediate cause' for purchase is a discount, as opposed to immediate availability.) In the case of a Prius, paying up to $5000 over MSRP for one with no wait could be considered "good". Not that I really wanted to pay that much, but my wife and I really needed a new car in less than 3 months (baby due, and neither of our older cars are very baby-safe,) so it was pay more for a Prius, or get some other car now, and MAYBE get a Prius later. When one became avaialble immediately, the 'immediacy' of it all kind of influenced our decision. If this deal had come up a month later, when we had already paid a $500 deposit at a '9-months-to-a-year-but-MSRP' dealer, we might not have bought it.jimb said:
Re: Wait? None, or 2 days, depending on your point of view.
As for $5000, at 200,000 miles if you average 45 mpg, you will break even with a car that gets 30 mpg. Now if you are all about hugging trees, then you won't mind the extra cost of your Prius.
I'll get one at MSRP or I won't get one at all.
Example? what example?, I don't understand.ehurtley said:
As for $5000, at 200,000 miles if you average 45 mpg, you will break even with a car that gets 30 mpg. Now if you are all about hugging trees, then you won't mind the extra cost of your Prius.
I'll get one at MSRP or I won't get one at all.
Re: Wait? None, or 2 days, depending on your point of view.
I'm sure you'll get one for MSRP. I was about to order one with a 12+ month waiting list to get it at MSRP, but this came along, and, to my wife and I, $5000 was worth not waiting a year for the car I really wanted. (Since the alternative would have been to buy a different car now, use it for a year, and sell it when the Prius finally came in. I assume I would have 'lost' more than $5000 in that arrangement anyway.)
Sorry, my example was for a TV. Yes, I know that I won't break even anywhere near close to now. (Especially when you take into consideration that this car is about $8000 more than our second-most-likely choice, which gets 30mpg, *BEFORE* the markup.) And it's not 100% about 'hugging trees', either. About 25% the environmental factor, about 25% safety (all those airbags, ABS, VSC, etc,) about 25% 'geek factor', and about 25% just plain personal preference.jimb said:
I'm sure you'll get one for MSRP. I was about to order one with a 12+ month waiting list to get it at MSRP, but this came along, and, to my wife and I, $5000 was worth not waiting a year for the car I really wanted. (Since the alternative would have been to buy a different car now, use it for a year, and sell it when the Prius finally came in. I assume I would have 'lost' more than $5000 in that arrangement anyway.)
Re: Wait? None, or 2 days, depending on your point of view.
So, how many miles do you have on it? what kind of mileage are you getting?
Today, the dealer called, we can have a blue #9 in 2 weeks. So we got on one list in Feb. The dealer that called we got on their list April 20. So, 4 months wait for MSRP isn't bad. Anyway, we passed on it for a 2005 in November.
So, how many miles do you have on it? what kind of mileage are you getting?
Today, the dealer called, we can have a blue #9 in 2 weeks. So we got on one list in Feb. The dealer that called we got on their list April 20. So, 4 months wait for MSRP isn't bad. Anyway, we passed on it for a 2005 in November.
I voted 3-4 that's when I ordered locally. I was told expect delivery of a 05 in January or February. I saw a posting about Helena Motors in Helena MT. My son goes to school there and is Interning with the DEQ this summer. I asked him to check things out as that is where he is getting his car service. Long story short I ordered and got a car in 5 and a half weeks. Paid sticker. Pick it up on Friday and drive it home. BTW the Helena Motors web site (http://www.helenamotors.com/) today lists a #9 Driftwood Pearl as in stock. Call them good folks. If you are a fisherman even more reason to visit. Some of the greatest fishing in the world. I give you the name of a few good guides.
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time it took and price over MSRP
walked into dealer in Kingman, AZ exactly 3 weeks ago today
was told they "only" added $995 to MSRP
didn't like paying over MSRP but I would be #9 on the list
they are my closest toyota dealer even though they are an hour drive for me
so I went along and hoped for the best
expected it to take till Dec or Jan. as they said they only get 2 or 3 a month but some people wanted fully loaded package 9 and I would take
any light color, package 3, 6 or 7
call came in two days ago, and I jumped, had the cash in my checking
then they sneakedly tried to get $1995 market adj over MSRP
had the sticker priced that way, etc
luckilly I had paperwork with me showing price I was told and they honored it
very happy to have the car
it's a shame we have to deal with this kind of scheming though
walked into dealer in Kingman, AZ exactly 3 weeks ago today
was told they "only" added $995 to MSRP
didn't like paying over MSRP but I would be #9 on the list
they are my closest toyota dealer even though they are an hour drive for me
so I went along and hoped for the best
expected it to take till Dec or Jan. as they said they only get 2 or 3 a month but some people wanted fully loaded package 9 and I would take
any light color, package 3, 6 or 7
call came in two days ago, and I jumped, had the cash in my checking
then they sneakedly tried to get $1995 market adj over MSRP
had the sticker priced that way, etc
luckilly I had paperwork with me showing price I was told and they honored it
very happy to have the car
it's a shame we have to deal with this kind of scheming though
The term "sucker" is generally applied to someone who does not know what he's really getting. Pay a quarter to see a two-headed pig, and then they show you a dead pig onto which the head of another dead pig has been sewn. That's a sucker. Buy the Brooklyn bridge from someone who has no right to sell it, or a patch of Florida swamp that you think is dry land, that's a sucker.
A person who pays extra for a Prius (far and away the best car in its class) in order to get it sooner is not a "sucker." He knows what he's paying for and has decided it's worth it to him. It's understandable that people who cannot afford to pay extra, or don't want to pay extra, will be angry at the person who helps to bid up the price that a dealer can charge, making it that much harder for them to get one. But that's the free market system. The real issue is the discrepancy of wealth. Would you call Bill Gates a "sucker" if he decided he wanted a Prius and he paid $60,000 for one? $60,000 to him would be like less than a penny to any of the rest of us. If you had a real craving for a chocolate bar and there was only one left in the store so they had raised the price 25 cents, would you pay it rather than wait a day?
But to answer the original question, I waited 2 months and a couple of days (I marked 2 months on the poll) and I paid MSRP plus a $159 "document handling fee." The dealer did all the paperwork for my registration and license plate.
A person who pays extra for a Prius (far and away the best car in its class) in order to get it sooner is not a "sucker." He knows what he's paying for and has decided it's worth it to him. It's understandable that people who cannot afford to pay extra, or don't want to pay extra, will be angry at the person who helps to bid up the price that a dealer can charge, making it that much harder for them to get one. But that's the free market system. The real issue is the discrepancy of wealth. Would you call Bill Gates a "sucker" if he decided he wanted a Prius and he paid $60,000 for one? $60,000 to him would be like less than a penny to any of the rest of us. If you had a real craving for a chocolate bar and there was only one left in the store so they had raised the price 25 cents, would you pay it rather than wait a day?
But to answer the original question, I waited 2 months and a couple of days (I marked 2 months on the poll) and I paid MSRP plus a $159 "document handling fee." The dealer did all the paperwork for my registration and license plate.
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