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Did you all forget to read this point: experience by all says 3.5 quarts max.

Even 3.9 qts will put you over the mark.
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Your experiance by all, or Toyotas.



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Got the mechanic to inspect it. It's quite overfilled so they'll drain the oil, check my glovebox release button (early wear and tear) and fix my rear bumper (has a little bump on the right side like at tumour lol)

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You stipulated "way over the fill mark" Was it more than a 1/16 of an inch? which seems to be a Toyota dealers standard.



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Put in three quarts. This leaves the level halfway between ADD and FULL (thus no possibility of an overfill), you'll spend less on oil, and there'll be no half-empty bottles of oil to fool with.

The advice to use too much oil to help "cool the engine" is, uhh, curious. Additional cooling via the oil system just means that the engine will run longer to keep itself at it's operating temperature. Using more oil and more gas than necessary is not why I bought a Prius.

But ****: it probably doesn't make a rat's ass of difference either way.

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It sure could make a lot of differance if your car starts consuming oil and you aren't checking every day. What in the heck is the matter with erring on the safe side rather than the other. Put in four qts, as the dealer does with a filter change, throw away the cans, and drive off on the safer side. Three qts probably is fine as you say as long as you are content to check the quantity daily. Last I checked, even a qt. of Mobil "1" wasn't that expensive. The whole object is to recognize where on that dipstick the engine is running normally and if "any" changes are observed to look into the matter. We've all heard the term "my car burns one quart of oil every two thousand miles." You then determine a reason. It's a lot easier spotting any changes from the appearance of a full dipstick rather than one indicating about the 3/4 spot on a diptick with only 3 and 1/2 qts in the engine. And really, you've never heard of oil cooling? Then you've never owned an older air-cooled VW or any engine with a dry sump. Have you never heard of the term oil or transmission cooler? Those fluids get darned hot and heat is bad. It's so hot in that engine it only takes a short time to bring the oil to operating temps.



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Speaking of VWs, it has been claimed (by John Muir, no less) that additional oil doesn't run cooler, it just takes longer to warm it up. But once to operating temp, more oil doesn't mean a cooler running engine. Not sure if I agree or not, but my solution was the later "doghouse" fan shroud, bigger fan, aluminum Type III oil cooler, and THAT made a helluva difference.

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John Muir was into trees and before the dry sump and oilcooler engines every hotrodder in California built over sized pans with cooling fins on the outside surfaces to go along with the dual and triple carbuerators, and shaved or Edlebrock heads. My first Jag a 1952 XK 120 coupe had I believe a fourteen quart pan on it. My 58 Lotus Europa with a blown Renault four cylinder engine took eight. My Cadillac takes 6 1/2 quarts and my Plymoth Voyagers six quarts. 3.9 qts is very little oil, unless you give the quantity lots of attention. There becomes little margin for error and starting with three qts removes that margin.



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Wrong John Muir. The naturalist was a relative of the "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" author, but I was speaking of the VW author.

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Originally Posted by hyperion
Your experiance by all, or Toyotas.
Many on this site and PriusChat. 3.9-4qts is over the full mark, 3 qts is halfway between add and full. So 3.5 should be just right.
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