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Well, I was waiting with "baited breath" to see if they would mess up again.
The new ratings are out and I just looked it up on the EPA site. For the 2007 Prius using the new method, it's estimated at 48 MPG city, 45 MPG highway. 46 MPG overall. That seems pretty much in line with what people are reporting. Some do better, some do worse. Seems fair to me.

For those who speak metric it's 4.9 l/100 km city, 5.23 l/100 km highway, and 5.1 l/100 km overall. I'm being a little optimistic with the decimal places, but whatever.

I presume we'll see the new numbers on the window stickers on the 2008 models. Of course, if the 2008 is a new model, the numbers would be different.

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Very interesting. Can you point us to a link David?

I did find this:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/200 ... usat_x.htm

It's pretty signifcant that the Prius and HCH fuel ratings are down by 16%, whereas all the rest (including other hybrids) range from a 12% decrease to 7% decrease. This will not be good news for Prius sales as their new mileage rating comparison suffers.
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I for one am pleased these new ratings are finally out. It was getting tiresome explaining to friends and strangers alike that I wasn't getting the 60 mpg advertised. Prius owners and the Toyota dealership just shrugged as we've always known the reality of mpg. Those of you online here who get such great mileage really aren't in the majority.

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OK, I guess I'm just a search guru. I found it at http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
On the right in the box there is a line to the effect "compare the new and old readings". Click on it and you can find the new reading for any vehicle they test. Actually, that's a misnomer. EPA only test a few vehicles, from my understanding (-perhaps- to ensure nobody is cheating). They set the test method and require all manufacturers to do the test and submit the results to them.

-Some- manufacturers cheat the results upwards for a better published score (wouldn't you?). For example, if they could get better results on a certain day, they would use those, instead of the "normal" results they would get most of the time. I'm sure there are lots of ways to get better results, and I'm just as sure the EPA only knows of a few of them.

Oh, and I'll bet the dealers will still quote the old numbers, and Toyota will still use the old number (60 MPG) in their adverts.

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Well at the moment, even that site is quoting the old numbers UNLESS you select that link. Manufacturers probably won't use the new numbers until they have to. This won't be limited to the Toyota Prius.
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Well, I was waiting with "baited breath" to see if they would mess up again.
The new ratings are out and I just looked it up on the EPA site. For the 2007 Prius using the new method, it's estimated at 48 MPG city, 45 MPG highway. 46 MPG overall. That seems pretty much in line with what people are reporting. Some do better, some do worse. Seems fair to me.

For those who speak metric it's 4.9 l/100 km city, 5.23 l/100 km highway, and 5.1 l/100 km overall. I'm being a little optimistic with the decimal places, but whatever.

I presume we'll see the new numbers on the window stickers on the 2008 models. Of course, if the 2008 is a new model, the numbers would be different.
Sweet, I now beat the EPA summer or winter!! hahahah

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At 70mph, I get 5.1L/100km so they're either testing at a higher speed or have everything running at the same time (A/C, lights, radio)

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i bought an '06 with about 7k miles on the clock. The guy i bought it from informed me that he had let the car sit in very cold temps for an extended period of time while he was trying to sell it. Long story short, it wouldn't start. After the battery was replaced there was continued starting problems so the dealer replaced the battery again. Runs fine now. My problem with the car after owning it only a week in the city of Chicago is that it gets very poor gas mileage. My fiancee and i have been averaging low 30's MPG. I'm not sure if the history of the car is affecting the electric motor assist or what. It seems for a 4 banger the ICE gets VERY poor mileage by itself. Is this normal? my old 96 accord 4 got 25-27 and my 99 S-10 I-4 gets better then the prius is indicating on the computer. I dont know. seems like something may be wrong. Any suggestions? My apologies for the Hijacking. we are talking MPG's here....maybe a link to a thread that already covered this is due? Thanks.
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Hello fellow Chicagoan. Your mileage is very typical of what I get. Wait till spring without heat or AC. You'll get in mid 40's or better. A lot also depends on whether you have short trips with several stops. After a couple years with my Prius, I've learned to accept what I can't change. Also goes for Bears football.

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Phew! I was beginning to think i had a faulty car. i just found another thread that talked of mileage and all the different factors that go into the numbers. Yes. the car has been abused with short trips. My gal drives to work sometimes and its only a couple miles away so the car doesn't warm up. The cold doesn't help either. This puts my mind at ease tremendously. As i mentioned, we've only owned the car a little over a week. LOVE the car BTW. Handles the snow very well. Hello Chicago. We can forget the Bears for a while and see if either of our baseball teams can win. Also, motorcycle season is right around the corner. This years tour will take me through Canada and New England. Cant wait.
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Yes. the car has been abused with short trips. My gal drives to work sometimes and its only a couple miles away so the car doesn't warm up. The cold doesn't help either.
Yup, that'll do it.
Try taking a long leisurly drive in less congested roads one weekend and see how it goes then. The lenthy drive will allow the car's sytem to warm up, as well as settle the cabin heat demand to a more manageable level. Best to do that when you don't have too many miles on the tank, otherwise your good mileage will be sorely diluted by your poor mileage.
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