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I spoke with the GM at my local Lexus dealership here and informed him of my Silver BC order which will arrive Jan 15th. He explained that Lexus will follow Toyota by approximately one year and the RX 330 Hybrid will be the first of several Lexus Hybrids. He explained that the performance enhancements for the SUV's will be superior to the Prius in that a V6 platform will be used as opposed to the weak 4 cylinder. He strongly recommended that I wait and pre-order the first RX 330 next year. He didn't know exactly when the pre-orders will be accepted but gave me a small brochure on the car and a website address. He's a good friend and I'm thinking of cancelling my prius order. Any other SUV lovers out there given this some consideration. I know for a fact that the SUV model will probably outsell the Prius and will be even more practical to use in areas where tough wheather and off road uses are important. Plus the GM said the RX 330 will have even better safety ratings than the Prius and heavy tech gadgets, XM radio, reverse camera, and a rear entertainment system.


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He explained that the performance enhancements for the SUV's will be superior to the Prius in that a V6 platform will be used as opposed to the weak 4 cylinder.
I didn't know car dealers had friends!

Of course the 4 cylinder is weak! That's why there is an electric motor to help when needed. If the six cylinder motor in the Lexus is so superior, why do they need an electric motor too?

My understanding of the RX330 is that it will be "superior" in some areas and inferior in others.
The hybrid system in the RX330 will have a different function then it does in the Prius!
Since the RX330 will still have a 6 cylinder engine, don't expect anything near the gas mileage that the Prius gets.
The main purpose of the electric motor in the RX330 is to boost performance to eight cylinder levels without increasing gas mileage.
I'm not sure about this but I think the RX330 will still have a conventional auto transmission Too.
I wonder what the rollover potential of the Lexus is compared to a Prius?
I'm sure the RX330 is a fine car, but in my mind it is not superior to a Prius, it is different and has a different purpose and remember it will be much more expensive to buy and to operate!

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I'll be disappointed if it has a regular auto tranny..I just can't see much point in a hybrid assist type system at this point since the superior technology already exists.

Also concur that 'superior' is a very relative thing. Recall that this RX400H will have a Superior price tag too...You may well shell out $45K for this baby loaded. That's not to say it isn't worth it if done right, and I, for one, hope it is. My wife will need a new car in 2-3 years and I'd love to be torn b/w the Hybrid Highlander and the Hybrid Lexus, and maybe even a Hybrid Minivan or the Hybrid Escape. What fun to compare and contrast them all and make a green decision on such a large vehicle.
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The Lexus will have the same planetary gear system as the Prius.

Read all about it here:

http://en.lexus-hybrid.com/home.html

http://en.lexus-hybrid.com/how/transmission.html

I agree that the Lexus will most likely be a much more expensive car and will likely not get as good a mileage as the Prius.

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The Lexus will have the same planetary gear system as the Prius.

Read all about it here:

http://en.lexus-hybrid.com/home.html

http://en.lexus-hybrid.com/how/transmission.html

I agree that the Lexus will most likely be a much more expensive car and will likely not get as good a mileage as the Prius.

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Thanks Chuck! As I said, I was not sure about the transmission.

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Now that Toyota has officially announced a Highlander hybrid for late 2004, there will be an affordable (I hope!) option for those of us who can't justify the expense of a Lexus SUV.
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Thanks for the Lexus links. I plan on getting my name into my nearest Lexus dealer, especially after checking out 'my' Prius that came into my dealer. Not impressed with the seat ergonomics at all, (even my MINI has a height adjustment on both front seats) not to mention the hodge-podge color scheme on this particular car- white exterior, gray dashboard, and tan seats and carpet. Something tells me Lexus won't ask their customers to settle for anything less than they ordered. Oops, sorry, that's 'preferenced' in Toyota-speak.
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Good point on the cost of the Lexus but as for style and luxury I for one would pay extra for those items. Not to mention the ability to pull a boat or trailer and the all wheel drive in bad wheather. I'm still going to buy the Prius and I'm sure we'll love it but when the SUV hybrids are available I will more than likely invest in one with all the bells and whistles.
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Hopefully the Highlander hybrid will have AWD (I believe the standard version does), as I also plan to tow a small 14-ft.boat + trailer, but where I'm towing it I wouldn't want to drive a Lexus! One mile down an unpaved bumpy road through the woods to a lake shore with a nice soft sandy beach to launch from. Right now my '91 Exploder handles this task easily, but looking to its ultimate demise I need a plan B!
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Right now my '91 Exploder handles this task easily, but looking to its ultimate demise I need a plan B!
B like blow up ?
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