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DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. (NYSE:GM - news) on Wednesday said it signed an $88 million deal with the U.S. Department of Energy to build a fleet of 40 hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and further develop the technology.

Under the five-year program, the world's largest automaker will spend $44 million to deploy fuel cell demonstration vehicles in Washington D.C., New York, California and Michigan.

The Department of Energy will contribute the other half of the investment in the program, under an agreement that expires in September 2009.

In a separate commercial agreement, Shell Hydrogen, LLC will support GM by setting up five hydrogen refueling stations in Washington, D.C., New York City, between Washington D.C. and New York and in California.

Other program partners include the U.S. Army at Ft. Belvoir, Virginia, and Quantum Technologies in Lake Forest, California. Both will provide facilities for GM to store and maintain fuel cell vehicles.

GM said it is also collaborating with the U.S. Department of Defense and would release news on that relationship later this week.
The article shows a picture of their working prototype... it seems to me 2.2 million dollars per production vehicle is a bit steep for a company that just recently thumbed it's nose at hybrid technology.

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The article shows a picture of their working prototype... it seems to me 2.2 million dollars per production vehicle is a bit steep for a company that just recently thumbed it's nose at hybrid technology.
Please excuse my nearsightedness, but I don't see any mention of production vehicles in the article. Forty units in 5 years sounds like they'll build a few prototypes, run them for a couple months, build a few more incorportating lessons learned, ...

I don't think anybody has a good idea of what to build in a production run (at least several thousand units) yet.
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Hands up who thinks in ten years time GM will be loading these fuel cell cars onto lorries to be taken to the desert and crushed?

The irony is if they'd stuck with the EV1 and hadn't crushed them in this way, they'd right now be the world leaders in EV technology, and would have a chance at cashing in on the PHEV revolution which is about to take hold. (Which, incidentally, already far surpasses fuel cell technology in every area of operation).
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That looks like production to me...

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fleet of 40 hydrogen fuel cell vehicles
That looks like production to me...
Only 40? That's not production to me. For a company the size of GM, that's not even a Saturday afternoon cookout, let alone a hobby or "production."

Hi, Melgish! I only just noticed this post here....Better late than never, eh?
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Only 40? That's not production to me. For a company the size of GM, that's not even a Saturday afternoon cookout, let alone a hobby or "production."
Depends on your point of view.... How many of those big monster dump trucks get built each year? I see it as production from the standpoint that 40 is more than what I'd call a prototype run... 5 would be a prototype run.

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Don't want to start a political debate, but I thought this was funny...

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4132
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Don't want to start a political debate, but I thought this was funny...

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4132
That's pretty funny!
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Don't want to start a political debate, but I thought this was funny...

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4132
I've seen this before, yet it doesn't really feel like a joke, know what I mean?
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the onion is awesome!

i like them because they tend to mock everybody at times. they slant to the liberal (as does most media), and liberal slant is almost so generic that it borders on the cliche, but they are really, really funny in their choice of subject matter and handling.

too absurb to possibly be taken seriously, set dealing with topics relevant enough to get ones attention.
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