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I must say that having leather in a Prius defeats the purpose. This car is all about increased fuel mileage, economy and a suppot in helping the environment.
Each year, cows release an almost immeasurable amount of methane gas into the atmosphere. This, along with the actions of the Bush administration and the rest of the Neo-Cons is quickly destroying our ecosystem.
You should also realize that by adding leather to your Prius, that you increase the weight of the car and effectively lower the potential mpg it can achieve. I took the opportunity to calculate the weight of the leather option which came out to roughly 96lbs. I added an additional 96lbs to the weight of my car using common house hold items like my signed copy of The Inconvienent Truth, a bowling ball, some left over John Kerry signs, a broken solar panel and the racks from my pottery kiln and low and behold, I saw on average a 1 mpg DECREASE in my fuel economy when tested over 4 tanks of fuel.

Please be smart and get the cloth interior and save some animals in the process.
Preach on brother, preach on. You speak the truth. Power for the masses.


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I must say that having leather in a Prius defeats the purpose. This car is all about increased fuel mileage, economy and a suppot in helping the environment.
Each year, cows release an almost immeasurable amount of methane gas into the atmosphere. This, along with the actions of the Bush administration and the rest of the Neo-Cons is quickly destroying our ecosystem.
You should also realize that by adding leather to your Prius, that you increase the weight of the car and effectively lower the potential mpg it can achieve. I took the opportunity to calculate the weight of the leather option which came out to roughly 96lbs. I added an additional 96lbs to the weight of my car using common house hold items like my signed copy of The Inconvienent Truth, a bowling ball, some left over John Kerry signs, a broken solar panel and the racks from my pottery kiln and low and behold, I saw on average a 1 mpg DECREASE in my fuel economy when tested over 4 tanks of fuel.

Please be smart and get the cloth interior and save some animals in the process.
You know, I think your on to something. Who else is going to commit to cloth on future prius purchases? I know I am.

Leather is nice but its as necessary as speed....useless!!!

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thats a good point Josh. Are there any other items that come standard in the prius that should warrant our attention into animal rights?

I for one can't imagine time attacking a car that promoted animal cruelty and death.
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I'm tired of auto manufacturers referring to HORSE power. This is offensive to me as an animal lover. There was a day when horses were SLAVES to men. It's better today, but not like it should be. They should run free. Too many are still kept locked up and "broken in" to be ridden by scum. Now they are just play things for men & women. The days of the wild Mustang are gone. It breaks my heart.

The term Horse power just further bolsters in the public's mind that Horses are just agents of work... or SLAVES.

They might as well start saying, "This car has 290 Indonesian Child Slave Laborers' power." See my point? Isn't that disgusting?

They need to rename the measure of power to something we all understand and associate with power like, "Dynamism" or "Muscle Power".
The Europeans use Newton-meter, but I'm not a fan of this either because Newton was a well known horse breeder and rider.
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Zorro, we don't need jerks like you on this site! There is no need to edit someone's post. You ain't funny...


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Zorro, we don't need jerks like you on this site! There is no need to edit someone's post. You ain't funny...
Agreed.

I think leather is totally snobby, and this is coming from someone who has only owned cars with leather. You don't "NEED" it, just like all of us didn't need our nice cars. You should downgrade to the bare minimum, and give yourself a CD player as a little treat. Luckily, it's standard on the Prius.

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Zorro, we don't need jerks like you on this site! There is no need to edit someone's post. You ain't funny...
I wash it was funny, but we have a planet to save. And that's not funny. Do you know how many baby seals were forced to migrate south during the time it took you to write your asinine remark? Thought so ...
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Agreed. As a new member he should take a more conservative approach.
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I must say that having leather in a Prius defeats the purpose. This car is all about increased fuel mileage, economy and a suppot in helping the environment.
Each year, cows release an almost immeasurable amount of methane gas into the atmosphere. This, along with the actions of the Bush administration and the rest of the Neo-Cons is quickly destroying our ecosystem.
You should also realize that by adding leather to your Prius, that you increase the weight of the car and effectively lower the potential mpg it can achieve. I took the opportunity to calculate the weight of the leather option which came out to roughly 96lbs. I added an additional 96lbs to the weight of my car using common house hold items like my signed copy of The Inconvienent Truth, a bowling ball, some left over John Kerry signs, a broken solar panel and the racks from my pottery kiln and low and behold, I saw on average a 1 mpg DECREASE in my fuel economy when tested over 4 tanks of fuel.

Please be smart and get the cloth interior and save some animals in the process.
I can't imagine the leather to cover the seating surfaces and steering wheel in my car weighs 96lbs more than the cloth to cover the same areas. But even if it does, I find it interesting that the average mpg after nearly 18,000 miles on my '06 with leather is the same as that of my cloth equipped '04 over 70,000 miles. In addition to the factory leather, my '06 has several options that the '04 did not have, including extra speakers, a six disc changer, navigation system, etc. The '06 is fully loaded, the '04 was pretty basic. Also, I have probably gained about 10lbs over the last couple of years, most likely due in part to the beef I have consumed! I suspect that the '06 outweighs the '04, but both cars averaged 54.4 mpg, with the same kind of driving and conditions spread over four years, rather than four tanks. Depending on where you live, lower temperatures could easily account for a 1 mpg drop.
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Hello all-

New 2008 Prius Touring Package #6 owner here, just picked it up a couple of days ago. As for the comment on how leather seats are 96lbs... not even remotly close. Additionally, in your 'factoring' of the difference in weight of cloth .vs leather, did you take out the weight of the cloth seats?

Not at all trying to start any issues here, but I had to chime in on this one. Also, I don't know if it's something different in the 08's, but the center console is not cloth any longer, I don't think it's leather, but more than likely vinal, along with the door armrests.

Anyhoo... So far I love the car. My only complaint with this is that the steering wheel lights could be a little brighter at night. At first I didn't think they were working untill it got really dark outside. Other than this, I think it's a blast to drive.

Actually traded in my Hummer H2 for this. Instantly went from using 4 gallons of gas a day to less than 1.
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