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Hello Clarinet. I dunno for sure but our Toyota-Link says: 06 Spring ?
I do have so many hand raisers already and reservation order as well from me also need a "Larger Sedan" but has to be Toyota Hybrids !
I believe the inside dimension on the new 07 Camry released in early 06 is the same as the 06 Avalons ! Go and check the existing Avalons, they should share the same "Platform" but with shorter _Overhang_ for a better and crisp maneuverability and handling. I'm sold on that .....
Appreciate the info, Ambassidor. Now, if you have insights on when will Hybrid Estima/Sienna lands in US, that will even be better.
Will do but you can "Amassed them all" one Toyota Hybrid at the time ! Nothing wrong with having _Multiple+Toyota Hybrids !

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Not a complaint against you, C. Rickey, or even Toyota, but against the car industry in general:

Why the heck is an '07 coming out in January of '06? What are they going to release in late '06, the '08s???

Well, the Camry was scheduled to be released in Sept like it always has been but it has been moved up 6 months, so I don't tihink it's January, but closer to March. The reasoning being, Toyota wants a head-start before the new Altima comes out in Sept.
how realiable is the source/guess? If it's closer to March/April, I might just skip Prius and get HSD Camry. I need to carry 5 people w/ some stuff. I hate to stuff all of 'em in the little Prius.
Fairly reliable (or rather, accurate). HOWEVER, since you mentioned the Camry HSD, that won't be released til late 06 or early 07. It's the regular versions that are coming out early next year.

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Now if only they would make a Traction Control System that will let the car wheels actually put power to the ground when both are on snow/ice.

Totally worthless in snow unless you have super snow tires.

I've owned 3 Camery's 1986, 1988, 1989. None of them had traction control. Only ran normal radials (Nothing special) Never had the car get stuck.

My 1997 Avalon with trac. cont. will NOT move if on ice/snow unless I disengage the trac. control.

Wife's 2005 Prius will NOT move if on slippery surface. Really limits an otherwise wonderfull car.

Whew!! Now I feel better.
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You know Larry, with enough "real world" posts like this they may get the engineers heads out of the books and into throwing in a switch to disable the system when it's obvious conditions just don't warrant it. (Of course, this feedback should be coming from your New Hampsire dealer back to Toyota.)



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I don't think they'll disable it because of how our HSD system is setup. However, it'll be nice if it was built to withstand more stress so that they can dial back on the sensitivity of the traction control.

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I will be going to my local dealer with this.
However I know just what to expect for answer.

Pass the buck, claim ignorance on subject, give some lame excuse that has nothing to do with problem, etc.

****, (excuse the French) when I took delivery of my Prius, the sales man didn't even know if or how to change battery in remote key unit. He had to ask a couple of mechanics and service manager. Nobody knew. It was the parts guy who knew the answer.

This sales man was "THE GUY" that went out on most all the demos with any one demo'ing the Prius demo car. He only knew how to start and run the car. Didn't know how to access the storage compartments etc.

My chances are better contacting Toyota directly.
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"(The Prius is) Totally worthless in snow unless you have super snow tires."
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Why would Toyota (or anyone else) put a drive system in their cars that renders them useless in what is normal winter weather in 1/2 of the US..Europe..? This must have been factory tested in all kinds of surface conditions..?
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And yet we now have more than just a few posts that this does occur in the real world.
Personally I have had no trouble in the snow even with my OEM trires but then again I have not been subject to severe conditions.



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The link I provided says 167ps (British rating).
SAE is always less. It should be around 164 hp (SAE).
The V6 should be the same as the one in Avalon. 268hp (SAE), no doubt.
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****, (excuse the French) when I took delivery of my Prius, the sales man didn't even know if or how to change battery in remote key unit. He had to ask a couple of mechanics and service manager. Nobody knew. It was the parts guy who knew the answer.
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