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I think they should have strove more for higher MPG rather than "acceleration". Or at least have a smaller engine available. Some people would probably be more likely to drive it if it got 40/50 mpg.
 
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I think they should have strove more for higher MPG rather than "acceleration". Or at least have a smaller engine available. Some people would probably be more likely to drive it if it got 40/50 mpg.
I agree with "Guest". Any hybrid SUV ought to be able to acheive an overall average MPG of something in the mid-30's. And yes, a smaller and/or more fuel-efficient option should be made available!

Give the consumers more credit!
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"High performance" in an SUV seems silly. A hybrid system with good MPG and a decent weight/towing capacity might be more attractive to buyers interested in those features.
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The problem with the Highlander is that it is an SUV. The problem with SUV's are that they are a waste of everything. They are, to put it mildly, stupid and useless vehicles; a hazard to themselves, everyone else on the highway, and the environment.

People who drive a Prius because they are conscious, because they appreciate a step change advance in automotive technology and/or because they want to be innovators (and with luck, in September I will be one of them), should reject the Highlander as in-authentic, a charlatan, a fake.

And finally, to elaborate on the main theme of this tread, "high performance SUV" is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. By design the SUV is unstable, unnecessarily heavy, and inefficient. They are effective neither at carrying people (compare to a minivan, which doesn't require a ladder to get in), on the highway (they are disproportionately involved in crashes and when in crashes they turn over), or even off the road.

A "high performance hybrid", would look like an Insight, or any other high performance car (pick your favorite two seater, mine is the Smart Roadster), it would use ultra-caps for the 1000 ft.lb torque, but include a suspension system that would keep the tires in contact with the road and the vehicle in a straight line, two things the BMW is obviously not able to achieve.
 
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That's very narrow-minded.

Our family has two cars - a sedan and an SUV. The SUV is used for carrying large items, and getting us through the snow in the winter.

It sounds like you'd want everybody driving rollerskates, and having big polluting diesels delivering large items to our homes.

Why does an environmentally-sound vehicle have to be small with little carrying capacity?

I look foward to replacing my Jeep with a Highlander once it's available. I'd probably own a hybrid SUV already if anybody had built one. I WON'T sacrifice functionality for the right to shoehorn myself into a hybrid rollerskate.
 
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That's very narrow-minded.

Our family has two cars - a sedan and an SUV. The SUV is used for carrying large items, and getting us through the snow in the winter.

It sounds like you'd want everybody driving rollerskates, and having big polluting diesels delivering large items to our homes.

Why does an environmentally-sound vehicle have to be small with little carrying capacity?

I look foward to replacing my Jeep with a Highlander once it's available. I'd probably own a hybrid SUV already if anybody had built one. I WON'T sacrifice functionality for the right to shoehorn myself into a hybrid rollerskate.
The post your refering to sounds like a troll to me.

There are many reasons for having an SUV (or indead any other type of car). I also have an SUV which we bought for winter use as our othr car was a MR2 Roadster (Spyder in the US), which was a) not very ggod in winter b) couldnt carry a paper bag Now the MR2 is gone and a Prius is on order the SUV will also go.
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Just put myself on the list for 2006 Highlander. My Toyota contact says to start looking for them in October 2005.
 
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I currently work at a Toyota Dealership in VA. The MISPRINT in the paper was just that, people see a introduction date of 2005 and ASSUME that it must be a 2006 Model !!! The Introduction of the 2005 Highlander Hybrid is set for the end of Feburary 2005/earily March 2005. It will be a 2005 Model and will follow the introduction of the LEXUS HYBRID which was produced for LEXUS by Toyota since they had no HYBRID TECHNOLOGY VEHICLES!!! That is the only reason for the delay in production and introduction...

Both vehicles will be a relief for SUV buyers and drivers whohave been "saddled" with an economically poor choice all there lives!!!

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Guy's,

I currently work at a Toyota Dealership in VA. The MISPRINT in the paper was just that, people see a introduction date of 2005 and ASSUME that it must be a 2006 Model !!! The Introduction of the 2005 Highlander Hybrid is set for the end of Feburary 2005/earily March 2005. It will be a 2005 Model and will follow the introduction of the LEXUS HYBRID which was produced for LEXUS by Toyota since they had no HYBRID TECHNOLOGY VEHICLES!!! That is the only reason for the delay in production and introduction...
I do hope you know Lexus is a subsidary of Toyota. The reason why the launch was delayed was because Toyota wanted to stock up on the inventory to minimise the waiting time that it's experiencing with the Prius

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produced for LEXUS by Toyota since they had no HYBRID TECHNOLOGY VEHICLES!!! T
Umm. Lexus is to Toyota like Cadillac is to Chevolet. Same company. In fact for a long time Lexus was known outside of the US as "Toyota Crown Series"
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