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I've test driven a civic hybrid too, never got the gas motor to shut off, but it was a relatively short drive and relatively cold weather so I won't judge on that. I felt the handling b/w the two was comperable. I sort of felt like the Honda wanted to present a feeling of being a "normal" car without the driver being constantly aware it was a hybrid. Prius seems to like to push the 'ground up' concept and make the driver constantly aware of the hybrid technology. Not saying one concept is better than the other, but that it may appeal to different personalities/driver styles.
I've had mine for over a year. I've noticed that the "turn-off" usually does not happen until the car has warmed up a bit. It also depends on how the vehicle is brought to a halt. I've managed to slow down to a crawl and run on pure battery power. About a mile-an-hour though
 
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My Auto stop works 95% of the time.... sometimes the brake vaccum isn't enough for it to engage. I have to wait about 5-7 second for it to come up then it stops....

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5. (-) Lugging -- The engine had a tendency to lug under low-load conditions, which is more of a psychological problem than anything else.


Hmm... so Damaged main crank bearings are a psychological problem??? This shouldn't be written off lightly. Lugging is an extreme engine damager, especially if it happens every time you stop...
 
 
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... The autostop will not reengage if it engages and then you creep forward(causing the engine to restart) without exceeding 10MPH.
This is one of the things I prefer about the Prius: When stopped at a light with the ICE off, if you creep forward it will just use the electric motor. The engine does not need to start. - Also, the engine never needs to lug, because of the alternate path to the wheels via MG1 and MG2.

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2. (-) No creep -- .
(2) No creep sounds good to me. I don't like cars that move by themselves. I prefer the car to move when I press the pedal, not before.

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yeah but if there's no creep, that means if you're stopped at an uphill, the car will not hold between the transition from the brake pedal to the accelerator.

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That is not true. It is very common technology to have an electric motor HOLD zero motion with varying loads. It is accomplished with a rotational position encoder or resolver (that I am sure the Prius already uses) as a feedback mechanism to notify the system of extreamly tiny motions allowing the system to compensate for them.
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yeah but if there's no creep, that means if you're stopped at an uphill, the car will not hold between the transition from the brake pedal to the accelerator.
Yeah true and you drift 1-2 inches backwards, but that just like a manual car. You adjust to it.

If the hill is really steep, even a "normal" car will drift backwards.



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4. (-) Doesn't like to cut the engine at stoplights --
5. (-) Lugging -- The engine had a tendency to lug under low-load conditions, which is more of a psychological problem than anything else.
(4) If you let off the brake (i.e. to creep) the engine will not shut off. This feature was mandated by the U.S. DOT who was concerned about safety. So keep your foot on the brake.

(5) Why do you think it's "lugging"? If it's above 1500 rpm, it's not lugging. Also, the load is split between engine & motor, so there's ~half as much stress as a normal car's engine.

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