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Henry 09-15-2002 11:35 AM

Why buy a Civic hybrid....?
 
...when the Prius is such a better vehicle in every way. Despite Motor Trend's cockeyed comparison/review favoring the Civic. The Honda is slow, underpowered, and gets worse mileage. And it's not as green.

Am I missing something here?

RSnyder 09-16-2002 11:53 PM

I think a larger selection is almost always a good thing. It's great that more than one company is interested in pursuing the benefits available with electric hybridization. Honda has almost doubled worldwide production of electric hybrids by supporting the Civic Hybrid. Even with that, demand still appears to exceed supply. Some people prefer Hondas to Toyotas. Some people prefer their local Honda dealers to their local Toyota dealers. It's great that Honda is supporting them rather than forcing them to go with Toyota or forgo the benefits of an electric hybrid.

And competition is good for Toyota's hybrid line too. It will make them work harder to improve the line sooner.

Henry 09-17-2002 10:20 AM

I'm not questioning the benefits and desirability of hybridization, or consumer choice, or competition. I think all of these can work to the advantage of the environment, when applied to the kinds of vehicles we drive. I put my money where my beliefs are by buying a Prius. But I wouldn't shell out big bucks for an inferior car just because it's a hybrid, thus my question.

kevin_rf 09-17-2002 05:07 PM

I agree, more choices are good.
What scares me is the 2001 Prius is the 2002 is the 2003. Without anyone to compete against the 2004 will be the 2001.

Mods. I want for my next hybrid ...
Hatch back
Fold down rear seat
Sun Roof

Not that I have looked at the honda, I have personally never liked them on snow and ice ... but choice is good. The prius is good, but could use a little work (aka sun roof)

Kevin
2002 moon blue pearl, 11K miles, 5 months

RSnyder 09-17-2002 07:58 PM

Well, I don't think you're missing anything, and I certainly don't think you should spend your money on something you feel is inferior. Along the same lines, however, I'm pretty sure there are Civic Hybrid owners who feel just as strongly that theirs is the superior car. Probably the best places to find out why people might prefer the Civic Hybrid are Honda's website and Honda salespersons (at least those trained in selling the Hybrid).

Me, I'm just glad there are plenty of people that prefer either of these cars to another high-pollutin' gas-guzzler.

kevin_rf 09-18-2002 04:18 PM

I'm not complaining to much ... Just some of the options I wanted do not exist in any current hybrid (sunroof, fold down seat, hatch back) ...

I look at it this way, I've done 11 thousand miles since april, old car got 26/27 mpg new car gets 46/49 mpg. that's 400/420 gallons vs. 225/240 gallons (net savings over five months (3 if you count my vacation and the 6 weeks it has spent in the shop due to bambi) about $250 ($1.40 a gallon), so I should be saving about $600 or more ($1000 minus bambi) a year on gas).

Plus it is a great car (the prius) ... It just lacks some of the things I really want (Sun Roof), and I think the only way that will happen is if the car goes main stream ... ie. replaces the corrolla.

We need someone to say no to the SUPER SIZED SUV that is needed to tow arround a PERSONAL SUPER TANKER.

Kevin

btw. the turn radius of the prius is worth it's weight in gold, my last car a shadow really sucked.

RSnyder 09-18-2002 10:10 PM

Hi,
There's nothing special about the Prius roof (other than the slightly unusual placement of the antenna). Most aftermarket sunroof places can do the job for you as well as they would for other sedans. It might not be as big as you'd like though, due to the short distance between the antenna and the dome light. But I think they can move the dome light if necessary.

I agree a hatchback would be nice, as would fold down seats (which is available in European Prius but not US Prius). I'd like to see high mileage, low pollution versions of many form-factors. Whether by hybrid or some other technology. A minivan is high on my own wish list. Choice is good.

01-20-2003 10:07 PM

why buy a honda civic hybrid
 
One big reason why I and others are considering the HCH is that it comes in a body style and known "all star" Honda civic platform. This allows people to make a fresh new choice that is in familiar territory.

Imagine if Toyota had popped a hybrid onto the corolla or better yet the Camry. Everyone has a mother or aunt that has a Camry and it is a proven reliable car.

I agree that the SULEV makes the Prius more 'green' than the HCH but there are many factors that go into buying a car. As a potential buyer ( trying to convince my wife as well) , a proven, familiar face goes a long way in buying new technology under the hood.

MAC

01-20-2003 10:07 PM

why buy a honda civic hybrid
 
One big reason why I and others are considering the HCH is that it comes in a body style and known "all star" Honda civic platform. This allows people to make a fresh new choice that is in familiar territory.

Imagine if Toyota had popped a hybrid onto the corolla or better yet the Camry. Everyone has a mother or aunt that has a Camry and it is a proven reliable car.

I agree that the SULEV makes the Prius more 'green' than the HCH but there are many factors that go into buying a car. As a potential buyer ( trying to convince my wife as well) , a proven, familiar face goes a long way in buying new technology under the hood.

MAC

mrv 01-27-2003 02:17 PM

Civic reasons
 
You'd rather have a manual stick-shift
than an automatic? (Prius is only
CVT, while the HCH is available in
manual or CVT.)

You like the crash test ratings for
the Civics (5 star driver/passenger,
HCH not tested yet), while the Prius
was given a 3/4 star rating.

You like your local Honda dealer
(sales or service) better than the
local Toyota dealer.

Parts are much easier to find for
a Civic than for a Prius.

You're just more comfortable in a
HCH than in a Prius.

IF there was a HCH available when I
last was looking for a car, I would've
at least looked at it, as on paper
their costs, features, and dimensions
are fairly similar, but... I own a
Prius, I love my Prius, and since I
haven't had to look for a new car
since I haven't even tried sitting
in a HCH. Heck, I've only seen one
HCH in the wild (to my knowledge).

More hybrids are a Good Thing.
From my discussions with other
people, the hot-platform types that
would be nice to have would be a
minivan, a hatchback/station wagon,
and a convertable (although I still
cannot figure why so many New Englanders
keep telling me they want a hybrid
convertable...)





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