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post #31 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-05-2005, 10:09 PM
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You make a good point An04 but it doesn't really make that much of a difference account of the numbers. According to MRV's figures a total 160,000 Prius total of all generations sold in the US as of July one, with no indication at all of increased monthly production rates. This in a country with 140 million passenger cars is less than a drop in the bucket. Ditto for the less than thirty thousand Hummers made with probably half still on the lots.
For the greenhouse we have to concentrate on other methods for electrical power. The auto industry just isn't going to hack it!
Facinating. MRV presents evidence that by the end of June of 2005 Toyota has sold as many Prius as all of 2004. And hyperion, as is his wont, concludes that Toyota is not increasing monthly production. A couple posts later he concludes, yet again, without evidence, that Prius must be selling at a loss.. yadda, yadda. The broken record continues. Is there a point to this. Wishful thinking???????

Once again: just because hyperion doesn't know how to make and sell a hybrid at a profit doesn't mean that Toyota can't do it. Maybe they just don't feel like letting him in on the secret. Is that his goal? Prod them into foolishly revealing their deepest, darkest secrets?

And what of my goal? Prod hyperion into revealing his deepest, darkest motivations?

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More good points which were refuted by this weekends Globe article. They have definately nailed the production costs of the synergy system at five thousand dollars. This is borne out by the expected list price for the Prius system in the Camry. Not that much difference between cars.
Thanks, hyp, I would love to read that Globe article. I'll try to find it or references to it. Sunday July 3 Boston Globe ??

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July 3rd Globe, entire front page probably automotive supplement. I'll look
Total Prius sold of all models in the US 120,000 up to Dec 04 and then the monthly figures show not all that much of a jump for a car with a three month waiting list. Rounded off, 5500 in Jan, 7,000Feb, 10,000Mar, 11,000 Apr, then 9500May and 9500June. No big increase and it has been said Prius production will be curtailed to allow Camry production to get cranked up.



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July 3rd Globe, entire front page probably automotive supplement. I'll look
Total Prius sold of all models in the US 120,000 up to Dec 04 and then the monthly figures show not all that much of a jump for a car with a three month waiting list. Rounded off, 5500 in Jan, 7,000Feb, 10,000Mar, 11,000 Apr, then 9500May and 9500June. No big increase and it has been said Prius production will be curtailed to allow Camry production to get cranked up.
More wishful thinking by hyperion? Yawn.

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