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As I remember it, Tom and Ray gave the '04 Prius a generally good review.

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Yeah, that was the odd thing about the review. There were things they didn't like about it, most of which I thought were very subjective things, like noise. There were other things, tho', that they really liked, and its clear that they really liked the idea of the car from the get-go...
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I found a follow-up to T&R's review in the Wash Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... n18_2.html

Pretty funny line at the end.

Well, two more weeks for me before I get my hands on my Silver #9!
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I think GM's "mild hybrid" thing is just a cop-out. They don't know how to do it, so they're going to do it "lite?" What IS that? Typical GM. When they finally fall out of first place one day, they'll all be scratching their heads, wondering "why?"

But some of us will KNOW why.



Um.. "free range" tofu? Isn't all tofu made from soybeans? Aren't soybeans already grown in wide, open spaces?

I guess I'm already buying free range tofu. Maybe I should check, just to be sure it wasn't made from beans grown in little huts or pens, huh?

Maybe I should be asking "the real question", which is: Was that tofu created with as little suffering as possible to all those helpless, scared little soybeans?
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I've been doing a bit more trolling for reviews before I do the deed and succumb to any buyer's remorse.
Well, no buyer's remorse here. I've had mine for 6 weeks / 1400 miles and I'm loving it. Admittedly, in my case it was a pretty big step up from my 1992 Plymoulth Colt (no airbags to zillions of them, for example!) And, the car even sends me e-mail messages at work saying things like "Wasn't I worth the wait?" and "When you drive me, you recharge my batteries." (Okay, this last part may be related to have some creative co-workers wit too much time on their hands!)
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Greetings,
In particular, Tom and Ray panned the noise level, the handling and the stop-start lag at a stop light.
On these specific points:

(1) Noise level at highway speeds: Drove it between Rochester, NY and Philadelphia with a friend and neither us noticed it being particularly noisy. It's probably not the quietest car in the world, but I certainly didn't find noise a problem. [The one or two times that I have driven at highway speeds or close with the windows open, I did notice more noise issues...It is probably best to use the very nice climate control rather than roll down the windows at these higher speeds.]

(2) Handling: I may not be too picky on this. It feels fine to me. I am used to the small-car tight-steering feel of my old manual transmission Colt so the biggest adjustment has been its bigger-car automatic transmission feel. Actually though, the steering feels tighter to me than I remember from the first time I test-drove one back last November making me wonder if they even made a mid-year adjustment to this after getting some negative reviews on steering feel. (Or more likely, my memory was just faulty!)

(3) Stop-start: I do wonder if what Tom and Ray complain about in starting up from a light was a glitch unique to their test car, as they even seem to suspect. I really haven't felt that at all. You can hear/feel when the engine kicks in when you are accelerating but you have to really be trying to hear/feel it...I don't feel any real jerk. As was noted by someone else, when the engine is cold and you stop for the first time, there is sometimes a noticeable shudder when the engine cuts off for the first time. However, it is not bad enough to be annoying and, at least in summer, it really only seems to be the first stop.
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jshore,
Thanks for the comprehensive rebuttal on the cartalk items.

One other thing I noticed on the interior of the 04 Prius during my test drive -- the interior door panel area just below the window seemed to be made of a cheap, plyable plastic -- probably as a weight-saving measure. Are there any stories out there as to the brittleness or strength of that plastic piece?

The black plastic piece I'm referring to is shown in the picture below on the driver-side door panel just below the window and above the beige left arm rest:
https://www.priusonline.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=20

Maybe I'm used to something a little more sturdy since I usually rest my left elbow on that area a lot when I drive.

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jshore,

The black plastic piece I'm referring to is shown in the picture below on the driver-side door panel just below the window and above the beige left arm rest:
https://www.priusonline.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=20
The plastic isn't the sturdiest stuff in the world, but unless you're smashing it with a hammer, you shouldn't have any problems.

Just for point of reference, my last car was a Jetta where every possible surface you could touch was covered in soft touch material. The Prius doesn't have the same level of luxury, but it seems just as sturdy.
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