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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 06-26-2007, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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Since thier are new electric vehicles coming to market now. And more affordable models are on the way. The cheapest at $45,000 is a 4 door pickup. That has a 100 mile driving range. With more affordable models in the works. This seems to be a question that needs to be answered. Because. How many buyers are out thier that would consider buying electric vehicle?

Note: Under $30,000 I consider affordable.
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I voted maybe.

It all depends on the exact type of vehicle. If the VentureOne EV turns out as advertised, then I would love to have one. It would make a great work vehicle. A Smart-sized EV with a 30 mile range would work great for my wife as a commuter, too. They would also have to be reasonably priced.

My main requirements for a work vehicle for myself: 2 place, with one able to hold a child seat (this is one that ruled out a Honda Insight,) 100 mile range, costs under $20,000 for a 2 seater, $30,000 for a 4 seater.

For my wife as a commuter: 2 place, with one able to hold a child seat, 30 mile range, cost under $15,000. (We looked at a used third-party conversion Ford Escort EV a couple years ago, but it just wasn't quite right.)

I would not buy a $40,000 full size car, though. Nor would I buy a single-place car. I drop my daughter off at daycare, my wife picks her up, so we both need to have child seats.

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Yes, and I hope to in the next couple years. I would love a safe, two-seater to commute to work. It doesn't have to be pretty or powerful.

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I voted "maybe" because it matters what the car can do and what it costs. After all, there are electric cars out now, so anyone who doesn't own one probably can't really vote "yes" without conditions.

Clearly if there was something with a feature set similar to the Prius but all-electric, I'd go for it. Even if it cost a bit more, but still what I could afford. Or even if it had less pickup, or a shorter range (though I'm a bit limited there: we're a one-car family so I'd hate to have no option for taking road trips for our occasional vacations other than rentals). Even if it was missing some of the convenience features like SKS (but boy, would I miss that). But take away too many things or add too much cost, and there'd be a tipping point where it was no longer the best choice.
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I would buy an electric vehicle ( I voted yes), that has a 100 mile range @ 70mph and costs around 25k for a 4 seater. This car would have to have a climate control system that works well in the north east and range not effected by cold weather. It would also need to have the ability to charge fast (say 5 minutes at a charging station) for when I make the trip to the next city over which is about 65 miles away. It can have a slow charger for home charging.

Alternatively I would buy a low speed electric vehicle that goes at least 40mph and has a range of 25 miles. I would pay 10k for that. Even the low speed vehicle would need a working climate control system.
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What would I consider practical for electric car.

Two types of cars should be produced.
Two seater subcompact hatchback with a 80 mile driving range. With the option of a extended 160 mile plus driving range. Price under $18,000. The extended range version would be an additional $4000. The concept of this vehicle would be to make it quite affordable. Unfortunatly sales volume for this vehicle could be similar to the Honda Insight. So creature comforts need to be improved in order to improve sales.

The four door hatch back should be similar to the Prius in size. Driving range of the base model could be 70 miles. With options of extended range of over 140 miles. Price would start at $22,000. With the range extending battery pack costing additional $4000.

To keep cost down the same battery would be used in both vehicles. For the range extened version would have two batteries. The second battery could be dealer install at a later date.

All version of the vehicles would be be able to do at least 70 MPH.

Yes a driving range of over 250 miles would be nice. But may not be practical, because of increased cost, and weight. This needs to be consided against cost, and how often this increased range will be used.

Yes their are rapid charge battery packs that take less than 10 minutes to charge. These batteries are just now going into limited mass production this year. Note: The rapid 10 minute charger could not be installed in a home. This is because the 200 amp residential electrical service could not supply the required power level needed. What the rapid charger uses is 480 volt three phase power. Wich is more common in comercial applications.

Running the heater will reduce the driving distance of an electric car.
But using a heatpump instead of resitance heater will cut the energy use by about 60 percent or more. On a regular ICE car waist a lot of energy in the form of heat. This waist energy is used by the heater.
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what about that site LIONEV.com? they have some EV's for sale, they have an accent and tucson, also a ford ranger, I think the accent is like 29k, tucson is around 32 or so, and the ranger is about the same... I also saw an ad in the local flyer here that was advertising an electric car for 20k brand new and had a top speed of over 70 with a range of 100 mi. I have been looking into this for a while, my mom just bought a prius and I like the thing, and I am a power freak, but the oil companies are getting too much from us, something needs to be done. My friend just got an electric r/c car to go over 80mph, my radar gun wouldnt even clock it, so we need to find one of those cop things they put out to tell you how fast you are going, the technology is on it's way, the oil companies are crapping their pants, that's why gas is up so high, think about it, when did lithium batteries come out? around 95 or so napa had them? right around the year 2000 is when gas started going up.

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I wanted to vote yes, because I definetly could use an all electric car.
But I would like to buy it from a dealer.

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There should be a counterpart poll: Would you buy an electric car if gasoline were rationed?

My car driving began as the oil embargo began in the early 70s. As a result of this, I know the difference between gas prices rising and gas availability diminishing. During the embargo, gas became very hard to get. The price did NOT skyrocket to make supply and demand balance. Rationing and availability limits dominated. The price did go up, but not near enough to stop rationing or long lines. The availability problems were solved with the embargo collapsing.

Don't let the poll responses mislead. With low price ($3/gal), available gas, the electric car would be a modest market. With high price ($10/gal), available gas, the electric car would be a very big market. With rationed gas, the electric car would be part of every household.

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The oil embargo of the 70s some facts
The OPEC contries stop shipping oil to the U.S. for retalation.
Oil supplies were in short supply. President Jimmy Carter instituted price controls. This didn't help the supply issue. But more likely hurt supply. Because more expensive sources could not be economically exploited. Oil companies were suppling gas to thier company owned outlets first. And only then selling the leftovers to the independit gas stations. This drove the some of the indendents out of buisness. And led to long lines at the gas stations due to the limited number company owned gas stations.
OPEC increased supply by the end of the 70s. Why did they do this?
They saw that the U.S. was now producing higher milage cars. This would eventualy result in a reduction in sales. The other reason was the the Saudes disliked the communist more than the captilist. Since the U.S. was trying to contain the exapansion of communist. So they turnned the pipe back on.
The situation that exist now is that developing coutries like China, and India are now experiancing huge manufacturing growth. This growth is fueled by oil. The Chines got most favored nation status from the U.S.. Bill Clinton signature is on the bottom of that sheet of paper. I wounder how many manufacturing jobs have gone to China. So when you type on your computer, watch your HD big screen TV, or listen to your Ipod. Just remember that it took oil to make that product. Then think were did that product come from. Then think of all those people working in those factories. That are they thinking about a shinny new car. That new car will need gas, that's made from oil. You have one sixths the world population sitting in China. And they will soon be all driving cars.
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