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does anybody know where i can get a BT BRACE for an 05 prius. thanks

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I don't know all the rules here, but it is on the other board, priuschat.com

I will post the link to it, but if I am not supposed to do this I apoligize in advance.

http://priuschat.com/shop/product_info. ... ucts_id/21

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Thanks Dan, I hadn't read deeply in to the posting rules, and mostly post over at that site, but being I just got my car on Monday I will be posting more at both.

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I read the (so far) 9 page thread over at PriusChat on the BT stiffening plate and was intrigued by the discussion. I'm sure it no doubt improves the handling and stability as so many poster claimed. But I decided against it when one post suggested that its stiffness could cause stress points eminating from the bolt-on area of the frame. Perhaps the flexing design of the OEM brace is intended to avoid that or other related issues. Therefore I guess I won't purchase the BT plate even though it could very well not be a problem at all.
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This is the 3rd year of production and if something this simple did any good I'm sure Toyota would have put it on the car. The seats I realize are too expensive an item to be replaced with comfortable ones.
From what I surmise from the installation pictures you are removing a steel brace which seems to have bends to create strength that was installed by Toyota and replacing it with a solid heavy powder coated steel brace. I would almost guess that the stiffening brace supplied by Toyota was doing it's job just as well with half the weight.
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thanks philwojo, i'll check it out

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This is the 3rd year of production and if something this simple did any good I'm sure Toyota would have put it on the car. The seats I realize are too expensive an item to be replaced with comfortable ones.
From what I surmise from the installation pictures you are removing a steel brace which seems to have bends to create strength that was installed by Toyota and replacing it with a solid heavy powder coated steel brace. I would almost guess that the stiffening brace supplied by Toyota was doing it's job just as well with half the weight.
It looks like you've been on the board long enough to know that what you posted is just not true. Why did you do that?
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First time I've seen pictures of the installation. Correct me if I am wrong but donot the instructions say remove the brace already there and install the new one with the longer bolts supplied? My guess would be that the same holes in the frame are used. If so Toyota has already corrected any problem in 04 and has seen no reason to change anything!
I'll admit to doing a little reading between the lines but that was the reason for my statement.
Toyota has done everything possible to save weight, and you are talking spending $160.00 just to change a brace designed by the manfacturer three years ago!
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First time I've seen pictures of the installation. Correct me if I am wrong but donot the instructions say remove the brace already there and install the new one with the longer bolts supplied? My guess would be that the same holes in the frame are used. If so Toyota has already corrected any problem in 04 and has seen no reason to change anything!
I'll admit to doing a little reading between the lines but that was the reason for my statement.
Toyota has done everything possible to save weight, and you are talking spending $160.00 just to change a brace designed by the manfacturer three years ago!
Have you read through that entire thread? Have you listened to what people say about the marked improvement in performance?

And the suggestion that Toyota made the part and hasn't changed it so it must be the best is just silly, really. They leave the Integrity tires, they cut lots of little corners to save on cost. The Annodized aluminum plate is much stronger and not much heavier than the OEM bar, but cost of manufacturing is higher...it makes perfect sense that since the Prius isn't sold as a performance car that they would not put a lot of effort into performance parts.

I'm not saying you have to buy this or that the car is of lesser value for the lack of it, but for me it makes for a firmer nicer more stable ride.

BTW, the bolts are only longer b/c of the way the new plate attaches, not that they screw in any further.

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